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From: halloran@unirot.UUCP (Bob Halloran)
Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards
Subject: Re: What's in Honey DanBer
Message-ID: <928@unirot.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 31-Jul-86 14:54:41 EDT
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Posted: Thu Jul 31 14:54:41 1986
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Reply-To: halloran@unirot.UUCP (Bob Halloran)
Organization: Public Access Un*x, Piscataway NJ (The Soup Kitchen)
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In article <679@mtune.UUCP> jhc@mtune.UUCP (Jonathan Clark) writes:
>In article <538@pyramid.UUCP> csg@pyramid.UUCP (Carl S. Gutekunst) writes:
>>>I think HoneyDanber is now the standard version of UUCP in S5R3. 
>>
>>Correct. The current 3B release of SVR2 also includes HDB as standard. (Both
>>are woefully lacking in transition tools. *SIGH*) The S5R3 HDB also has a new
>>'e' protocol that uses TLI on streams, a small hack that is trumpted all over
>>the SVR3 promotional literature. I'd be curious to know who wrote it since it
>>doesn't look like Peter & company's work. (It's obvious from the labels that
>>the 'e' originally meant Ethernet.... :-)) 
>
>I tend to agree that 'e' originally meant Ethernet, since 'e' protocol
>was originally only included if the system was running UNET. Of
>course, it could mean 'express' or 'extra' or enything :-). But surely
>the 'e' protocol pre-dates HDB, and at least some sites are offering
>it - bellcore for example. I'm sure they only mean to use it over
>their X.25 links, but they do offer it if you call them.

Actually, I believe it means 'error-free'; it's made for use over a
channel that does its own error handling, hence the radically improved
throughput you achieved, since no error checking/correction was being 
done in the software (your results edited out on this followup).  
There is also an 'x' protocol module specifically for X.25 links.

					Bob Halloran, Consultant
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