Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!cbosgd!ukma!psuvm.bitnet!psuvax1!vu-vlsi!cbmvax!grr From: grr@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (George Robbins) Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Subject: Re: "bitrot" on magnetic media: is there such a thing? Message-ID: <588@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> Date: Thu, 7-Aug-86 20:16:42 EDT Article-I.D.: cbmvax.588 Posted: Thu Aug 7 20:16:42 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 9-Aug-86 08:48:21 EDT References: <826@PUCC.BITNET> <217@c3pe.UUCP> Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.UUCP (George Robbins) Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA Lines: 36 In article <217@c3pe.UUCP> charles@c3pe.UUCP (Charles Green) writes: > >But I'm beginning to wonder: after the address marks are written on a disk >during formatting, as the years go by, do they gradually "entrophy" >(atrophy via entropy!), or melt into the noise? Yes, there is such a thing as 'bitrot', but I'm sure you could get quite a bit of argument going on the subject... The following notions should be considered: Magnetic storage devices work when a magnetic field from a read/write head magnitizes the vast majority of magnetic particles in an area on the media in the same orientation. Not every particle particle cooperates, and some are likely to change, as a function of time and temperature. Also, the head assembly may retain a slight magnetic field, and/or be subject to leakage currents from the circuitry. This can also encourage particles to change orientation. As the number of appropriately oriented particles diminish, the signal to noise ratio seen by the read circuitry will decrease and you may eventually see problems. Note that there are other problems that can cause similar symptoms, such as media wear, gradual change of drive speed, thermal effects and shifts in positioner repeatability. Drives that do not move the heads to a parking postion may also suffer occasional glitches on power down. The problem is not limited to 5.25" drives, I've had problems with 100MB disk pack drives, where 'read-only' system packs had to be reformatted maybe twice a year when random errors started to occur. (note that ECC and/or track substitution was not involved here). Thoughtful comment appreciated... -- George Robbins - now working with, uucp: {ihnp4|seismo|caip}!cbmvax!grr but no way officially representing arpa: cbmvax!grr@seismo.css.GOV Commodore, Engineering Department fone: 215-431-9255 (only by moonlite)