Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!caip!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!jade!mica!mwm From: mwm@mica.berkeley.edu (Mike Meyer) Newsgroups: net.unix Subject: Re: BSD support (from Mt. Xinu) Message-ID: <1047@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Sun, 3-Aug-86 03:02:07 EDT Article-I.D.: jade.1047 Posted: Sun Aug 3 03:02:07 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 4-Aug-86 00:46:51 EDT References: <2489@brl-smoke.ARPA> Sender: usenet@jade.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: mwm@mica.UUCP (Mike Meyer) Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica Lines: 33 Am I the only person who has had good experiences with Mt. Xinu? We bought a binary from them, and got quick response to problems, almost always new software by UUCP or over-night mail. Occasionally, we got "We don't do that, and never claimed to" (which was invariably correct). However, even in those cases, things weren't hopeless. To wit: In article <2489@brl-smoke.ARPA> rex@usgs3-vms.arpa writes: >One more item on Mt Xinu's support of BSD. I've repeatedly asked about support >for Fortran (no groaning please). Their usual answer is something like >"we don't really support Fortran 'cause no one here is into Fortran". >Since we literally have hundreds of thousands of lines of Fortran here, >and the 4.2 f77 was essentially shipped broken (later fixed - thanks again >Donn Seeley & friends), Mt Xinu did not get our business. I recognize that problem; that's the shape we were in. I recommended we run VMS instead of Unix because of the thousands of lines of FORTRAN, and only stopped objecting loudly to Unix after I got a look at the "new, improved f77" that was floating around at the time (mid-83). When the stock 4.2 f77 proved to be unusable, I talked to Donn Seeley & Mt Xinu, and viola - Mt Xinu got a tape from Donn, and shipped me binaries of the new version (which Donn couldn't do because of screwiness in the AT&T license). Worked much better, and everyone was happy (thanx again, Donn). We only had one problem that didn't get resolved to everybodies satisfaction, and that involved some kernel mods specifically for us, for which Mt. Xinu wanted far to much money. I have no problems recommending Mt. Xinu to people based on our experiences.