Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!lll-lcc!pyramid!hplabs!hplabsc!taylor From: taylor@hplabsc.UUCP (Dave Taylor) Newsgroups: mod.comp-soc Subject: Re: Ethics of Work Message-ID: <529@hplabsc.UUCP> Date: Wed, 6-Aug-86 13:31:38 EDT Article-I.D.: hplabsc.529 Posted: Wed Aug 6 13:31:38 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 8-Aug-86 05:41:18 EDT Reply-To: hplabs!beebe@venera.isi.edu Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Lines: 26 Approved: taylor@hplabs Reference: <524@hplabsc.UUCP> This article is from Alfred Beebe and was received on Tue Aug 5 18:01:24 1986 I'm going to disappear from the net Aug. 15 - taking a teaching job at the U. of Maryland and maybe rousing some of the rabble in the East. Did MSG ever give you pause for thought? I worked on AMRAAM from 79 to 83 doing tactical radar software development. I wonder if we ever met? One thing I would like to see among technical people who have these concerns is a change of attitude where they would feel free to watchdog their companies or organizations and make noise inside and out about what they saw as unethical uses of technology and manpower. It has been said that the scientific community is presently constructing the machine that will bring the next holocaust - global - but nobody seems to blink an eye. What does everyone have on their minds? [Note: "MSG" is the Hughes Aircraft Missile Systems Group, where I worked for a summer. Alfred also worked for the same group. Of course, since the group actually has about 1600 employees, I don't think we met. Also, the comments Alfred makes on internal monitoring are true! There are a number of people I know that complain to their friends about waste, poor design, and so on, but never seem to complain to the people that could make a difference - MANAGEMENT. More anecdotes on demand about that... --Dave]