Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!lll-lcc!pyramid!hplabs!hplabsc!taylor From: taylor@hplabsc.UUCP (Dave Taylor) Newsgroups: mod.comp-soc Subject: Re: Ethics of Work Message-ID: <556@hplabsc.UUCP> Date: Wed, 13-Aug-86 21:16:09 EDT Article-I.D.: hplabsc.556 Posted: Wed Aug 13 21:16:09 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 14-Aug-86 08:24:21 EDT Reply-To: hplabs!sun!llewelyn!clt@hplabs.HP.COM Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Lines: 37 Approved: taylor@hplabs Reference: <524@hplabsc.UUCP> This article is from sun!llewelyn!clt@hplabs.HP.COM (Charlie Tierney) and was received on Wed Aug 13 16:55:03 1986 [slightly reformatted] Dave, I used to work at Raytheon Missile Systems Division (MSD) from (I think) 80-81. I had a good job, doing radar simulation for a surface to air missile engineering group. The system was purely defensive in nature. But after 7-8 months, I began having nightmares. These got progressively worse as I continued work. And eventually it dawned on me that some part of me did not want to have *anything* to do with killing other people. No matter if it was "defensive" or not. I lasted 13 months before I resigned. My resignation was based solely on my moral dilemma. Raytheon is a good place to work. Why do people work for the Defense Establishment? 1.) The work is often very interesting, I think a lot of the best engineers simply put on their moral blinders in the morning and are able to live with it. 2.) Many older engineers are from the pre-Vietnam "We must defend our freedom from the USSR" mindset. I am not knocking this belief, just saying it exists. 3.) It is often the only place where you are working with high budget, truly state of the art processes, etc. (Other places: Xerox PARC, HP Labs, Bell Labs, IBM Research, etc.) 4.) The younger engineers often take defense jobs as resume builders. Charles Tierney