Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!hplabs!ucbvax!apollo.UUCP!rees From: rees@apollo.UUCP.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.computers.apollo Subject: Re: /com/telnet vs /usr/ucb/telnet Message-ID: <8608010724.AA00316@uw-beaver.arpa> Date: Thu, 31-Jul-86 11:02:14 EDT Article-I.D.: uw-beave.8608010724.AA00316 Posted: Thu Jul 31 11:02:14 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 1-Aug-86 23:20:04 EDT References: <8607260143.AA03949@yale-vlsi-vax.YALE.ARPA> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 24 Approved: apollo@yale-comix.arpa Here's the problem, /usr/ucb/telnet talks to everybody fine, hangs up after a session fine... But, /com/telnet is a different story. It will call any of the other machines fine, work fine during the session and even close fine after a session to a unix machine. But to VMS, which is running EXCELAN telnet and ftp, when I log out, the /com/telnet starts spitting out errors "Remote machine reset connection" or something to that effect. The Excelan telnet server does indeed reset the connection instead of closing it. This is a bug on their side. They are aware of the problem and have promised to fix it. You could argue about what the right thing to do is when the connection is reset. I assert that we do a reasonable thing -- tell the loser that the connection was reset, then await further instructions. Probably we should put the user into telnet command mode instead of staying in conversation mode, since the connection is unusable at that point. The telnet protocol spec is no help on this matter. Most users seem to want us to just exit telnet, the same as bsd4.2 telnet does. The manual says how to close a telnet connection. I won't spoil your fun by telling you here, but I will say that if you blast telnet (or any process, for that matter), you get what you deserve -- utter chaos.