Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!cbosgd!ucbvax!SRI-NIC.ARPA!KNIGHT From: KNIGHT@SRI-NIC.ARPA (Bob Knight) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: Re: Message-ID: <12228550730.12.KNIGHT@SRI-NIC.ARPA> Date: Wed, 6-Aug-86 01:15:24 EDT Article-I.D.: SRI-NIC.12228550730.12.KNIGHT Posted: Wed Aug 6 01:15:24 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 9-Aug-86 06:40:30 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 43 Approved: laser-lovers@washington.arpa Well, to some extent, I was flaming (yeah, I thought when I hit ^Z I might be called on it, but I did it anyways - only because I'd like to see some real competition in the high-end market). Hey, we went looking for a (relatively) fast printer. At the time, Imagen had the 24 and 12 series and there was Xerox with nothing exciting. From what I've heard about the Xerox 24 and 12 engines, I don't even want to look at them: they'll break if you do THAT. I have to support Scribe and TeX, as well as scads of p[l]aintext stuff. I also had to keep it under $22K. To make a long story short, we bought a Dataproducts 2665. Why? Well, we didn't pay a lot of money for it. It may not be the fastest PostScript interpreter in the world, but, if you've got a job that isn't very complex (like our plaintext stuff), it screams. It's easy to service and maintain. And it supports PostScript, which means that I keep our Scribe and TeX users happy. Ralph Gorin sez "Any time is the wrong time to buy a computer". And he's right, and the same adage applies to laser printers. Imagen hadn't announced its new line and we may have been better off going with them. However, I believe we made the right decision, and, given the circumstances, I'd make it again. It's meant that we've had to invest in some software development, but almost anything we bought would have meant that. Yeah, it's broken once (and nobody knows how to fix it - BUT...all you gotta do to fix it is replace the controller board). And, I've had dealings with DataProducts for years in various capacities and have found that they stand behind their products. So, I guess the bottom line is, no, I don't know of a high-speed PS printer. But, unless Xerox gets its act together, I'll wager that you won't find any REAL competition to PostScript or IMPress coming out of Xerox. And it's a shame, because Xerox should be right in there, competitive as hell. By the way, I think DEC'll deliver. However, even though they've tightened up the announcement-ship gap, they still eat it occasionally...and the PS-40 is probably one of those dinners. And I probably ought not to hit ^Z on this one, either. But I will. Bob -------