Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!caip!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!buffalo.CSNET!colonel From: colonel@buffalo.CSNET ("Col. G. L. Sicherman") Newsgroups: mod.legal Subject: Re: killing all the lawyers Message-ID: <8607282056.aa19339@SEM.BRL.ARPA> Date: Mon, 28-Jul-86 10:55:05 EDT Article-I.D.: SEM.8607282056.aa19339 Posted: Mon Jul 28 10:55:05 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 29-Jul-86 01:28:44 EDT References: <8607171214.ae23797@SEM.BRL.ARPA>, Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 42 Approved: info-law@brl.arpa In article <8607251307.AA03538@hoptoad.uucp>, gnu@hoptoad.UUCP (John Gilmore) writes: > I find this to be very self-serving. There seems to be a strong > correlation between lawyers and lawmakers. How many members of > Congress have practiced law? How many judges have practiced law? > Now don't tell me lawyers are not responsible. I *know* it's not > English majors drafting those laws! Mr. Gilmore seems to be describing his impressions as an outsider. Of course there "seems to be a correlation" between lawyers and lawmakers, but it's not what he thinks. To begin with, most of the laws that are applied are state and local laws. Everywhere I know of in the U.S., state and local legislators are chosen from political clubs, and the one inviolable criterion for selection is loyalty. As a practical matter, legal training is a great asset in drafting laws. When a state legislature passes a law in vague and clumsy language, with glaring loopholes in some places and outrageous penalties in others, you may be sure it was drafted by amateurs. Unfortunately for us, most legislators know nothing about legal writing--indeed, few legislators can write even fairly well. In my state (N.Y.), legislators tend to be loud and stupid. And our laws show it! > It would be great if I could "start by reforming the law" but since > I have you here reading my words, let's start with you. "The law" > doesn't seem to listen to me very well. Let's start with you instead. If you were injured in an accident, would you hire a lawyer who would try for a moderate and appropriate settlement, or one who would exploit the weakness of the law to obtain a settlement out of all proportion? If you're like most litigants, you'll hire the most rapacious lawyer you can afford. So long as the legal system has its weak points--the legislators and judges--some lawyers and clients will be ready to exploit them. It's your own fault for thinking that an annual trip to the polls will discharge your political duty. Complaining about the lawyers under a corrupt political system is like never bathing and then complaining about fleas.