Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!MC.LCS.MIT.EDU!kfl%mx.lcs.mit.edu From: kfl%mx.lcs.mit.edu@MC.LCS.MIT.EDU Newsgroups: mod.politics Subject: Murder laws Message-ID: <12229552858.51.MCGREW@RED.RUTGERS.EDU> Date: Sat, 9-Aug-86 21:00:16 EDT Article-I.D.: RED.12229552858.51.MCGREW Posted: Sat Aug 9 21:00:16 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 10-Aug-86 03:44:09 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: kfl%mx.lcs.mit.edu@mc.lcs.mit.edu Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 12 Approved: poli-sci@red.rutgers.edu From: Mario O. Bourgoin [your proposed amendment] makes murder laws unworkable because there is no way of deciding afterwards that the person was not voluntarily involved in the dangerous activity. The presumption in cases like shooting, stabbing, robbery, etc, is that the victim did not consent. ...Keith -------