Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!MC.LCS.MIT.EDU!kfl%mx.lcs.mit.edu From: kfl%mx.lcs.mit.edu@MC.LCS.MIT.EDU Newsgroups: mod.politics Subject: Proposed Amendment Message-ID: <12229619657.51.MCGREW@RED.RUTGERS.EDU> Date: Sun, 10-Aug-86 03:07:12 EDT Article-I.D.: RED.12229619657.51.MCGREW Posted: Sun Aug 10 03:07:12 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 10-Aug-86 06:12:33 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: kfl%mx.lcs.mit.edu@mc.lcs.mit.edu Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 52 Approved: poli-sci@red.rutgers.edu From: Hoffman.es@Xerox.COM ... witness the recent ruling that employers can fire AIDS victims on the grounds that they are contagious. You've already vehemently defended an employer's right to fire anyone for any reason whatsoever, and, while not completely agreeing with that, I've already conceded that hiring and firing do not fall under any privacy rights amendment. I was using that ruling simply to illustrate that it is the government's position that AIDS is a danger to nonconsenting people. I DO support an employer's right to terminate someone even for a silly reason, just as I support an employee's right to resign even for a silly reason. The government, however, does not. So it is clear that they do not think that fear of casual exposure to AIDS victims is unreasonable. And from that I conclude that they would hold that someone having AIDS presents a clear and present danger to others, and thus behaviors that make AIDS likely are not protected under your proposed amendment. That [Meese] commission's report has utterly no effect. Legislation is required to put it to work, and THAT is what my amendment would, I think, prohibit. The Meese comission report comes to the conclusion that someone's viewing pornography results in a clear and present danger to others. Thus it would not be protected under your amendment. I still don't see why it isn't protected under the FIRST Amendment! The First Amendment is just as clear on the subject as yours. I tend to think wiretapping and reading other people's mail would remain generally illegal under the Fourth Amendment (forbidding unreasonable search and seizure). What about peeping? Your previous response implied that one could only be a peeping tom on one's property. This is not true. Binoculars can be used. And apartment dwellers do not own or control the space immediately outside their windows in any case. If binoculars are used to read private documents through someone's window, does that constitute search and seizure? Nothing physical is siezed, but the same is true when secret computer files are remotely viewed. What if it is private behavior rather than private documents that is viewed? Should the law recognize a difference? This is not just paranoia. Where I work there is a rule that windows must be blocked before sensitive documents can be exposed, even though the only way to see desktops through the windows would be from midair or outer space. ...Keith -------