Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!mordor!sri-spam!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!XX.LCS.MIT.EDU!WLim From: WLim@XX.LCS.MIT.EDU Newsgroups: mod.politics Subject: Re: Duels Message-ID: <12233234799.16.MCGREW@RED.RUTGERS.EDU> Date: Sat, 23-Aug-86 22:05:46 EDT Article-I.D.: RED.12233234799.16.MCGREW Posted: Sat Aug 23 22:05:46 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 24-Aug-86 03:05:08 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: WLim@xx.lcs.mit.edu Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 34 Approved: poli-sci@red.rutgers.edu From: Hibbert.pa@Xerox.COM Subject: Re: Duels Speaking as a libertarian, I would agree that there's no reason to ban duels. Would you like to propose a moral basis for banning them? No, would you? There are other problems. Suppose A and B agree to a duel but unknown to A, B had a bet with X such that if B wins, X will pay B lots of $$$. Suppose A is killed in the duel, did B and/or X commit a fraud? Suppose B got killed instead and there comes another duelist C who also had a bet with X. If C loses, another duelist D appears, etc. all having bets with X. Now suppose A found out about the bets and decided not to duel since the odds are against him/her. He/she would really want to if the odds are better. Did X have influence on A's behavior using X's own wealth? Can groups get involved in duels? If so, is there any limit on the number and size of the groups? Can members of the military and police participate? Can any citizen or non-citizen have a duel with the president who just happens to have a gunslinger mentality and loves to have a duel with anybody? I like Keith Lynch's answer better than yours. He at least just make the right assumptions to make the problems go away. What happens when those assumptions are wrong? According to libertarian fundamentalists, there ain't no way the government is going to (or be allowed to) fix it. Willie ------- -------