Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!SUSHI.STANFORD.EDU!ANDY From: ANDY@SUSHI.STANFORD.EDU Newsgroups: mod.politics Subject: The Mob and Atlantic City Message-ID: <12233658854.16.MCGREW@RED.RUTGERS.EDU> Date: Mon, 25-Aug-86 12:55:10 EDT Article-I.D.: RED.12233658854.16.MCGREW Posted: Mon Aug 25 12:55:10 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 25-Aug-86 21:44:06 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: ANDY@Sushi.Stanford.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 46 Approved: poli-sci@red.rutgers.edu Our beloved moderator, Charles McGrew writes: [who, me? - CWM] If you think that legalized gambling will make the mob go away, go look at who OWNS the casinos in Atlantic City. Look who takes protection money from the prostitution houses in Nevada, look who owns the big loan sharks. They won't go away; they're making too damn much money to stop. You underestimate the mob: they're smart and mean. Atlantic City is an example of artificial scarcity. (Las Vegas is also artificially scarce, but there is much less govt involvement.) A better example would be gambling and Nevada. Are the slot-machines in the service stations mob-run? What about the blackjack tables in most restaurants? I see nothing wrong with the Mob owning casinos in Atlantic City. If they are committing real crimes, then they should be prosecuted for those crimes. "Mob" paranoia is more dangerous to most of us than the mob itself. One example is the racketeering laws. Smart lawyers add RICO charges to civil software licensing lawsuits. (Yes, Virginia, that adds a powerful incentive to settle out of court. Imagine the publicity, "MocroHard Rackeering Trial in Third Week.") When the Mob is doing something illegal, like extortion, then that's something to worry about. We have gone too far; it is illegal to be in the Mob even if you haven't done anything. Try to defend yourself against that. -andy ------- [ Lepke, Capone and thos other 'businessmen', wherever they are, must be smiling at this. "I'm a legitimate businessman" is the mob's answer to people who worry about their heavy-handed techniques. As I understand it, organized crime owns most of the slots companies, so I'd say yes to your questions on those. I don't know much about the racketeering laws, so I can't comment on those. I still stand by my original point that making gambling, etc. legal will not make organized crime disappear. They own a lot of stuff, and use their on clever, subtle techniques to ensure that business stays good. - CWM] -------