Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!mordor!sri-spam!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!XEROX.COM!hoffman.es From: hoffman.es@XEROX.COM Newsgroups: mod.politics Subject: Re: Privacy Rights amendment Message-ID: <12226375262.23.MCGREW@RED.RUTGERS.EDU> Date: Mon, 28-Jul-86 18:05:12 EDT Article-I.D.: RED.12226375262.23.MCGREW Posted: Mon Jul 28 18:05:12 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 29-Jul-86 01:23:46 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: hoffman.es@xerox.com Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 42 Approved: poli-sci@red.rutgers.edu Return-Path: Date: 16 Jul 86 17:46:12 PDT (Wednesday) From: Hoffman.es@Xerox.COM Subject: Re: Privacy Rights amendment In-reply-to: <[MX.LCS.MIT.EDU].933333.860715.KFL> To: "Keith F. Lynch" cc: Reges@SU-SCORE.ARPA From: Keith F. Lynch Do you mean that employers should voluntarily [adopt a policy stating something like, "Only job-related characteristics shall be considered in hiring, firing, and promotion decisions]? Or that they should be compelled by law to do this? I meant exactly what I said, that "I'd like to see employers adopt" such policies. I'll further say that IF the government is going to mandate some sort of non-discrimination laws (which I'm not calling for here), I'd prefer one of that sort to what I called before the "never-ending, impossible, and unnecessary" enumeration of minorities. Who is this [privacy rights] amendment to protect us against? Just the government? Or other individuals and private organizations as well? As with the Fourth Amendment I quoted as a model, just the government. The context was the discussion of the recent Supreme Court ruling about Georgia's sodomy law. Such an amendment, as you note, would not prevent discriminatory hiring or firing. These are separate issues. (They were only combined in my message because they were both discussed in your earlier one.) The privacy amendment is not (solely) a gay rights issue, obviously. The "gay rights issue", as I see it (and as I've stated it here before [August 1983]) is about equality. If the state must sanction marriages, they should sanction gay marriages as well. The state as an employer should be compelled to abide by a sweeping non-discrimination law of the sort I outlined earlier. And so on. -- Rodney Hoffman -------