Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!mordor!sri-spam!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!MC.LCS.MIT.EDU!kfl%mx.lcs.mit.edu From: kfl%mx.lcs.mit.edu@MC.LCS.MIT.EDU Newsgroups: mod.politics Subject: Re: Proposed amendment Message-ID: <12228295880.23.MCGREW@RED.RUTGERS.EDU> Date: Tue, 5-Aug-86 01:55:28 EDT Article-I.D.: RED.12228295880.23.MCGREW Posted: Tue Aug 5 01:55:28 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 5-Aug-86 23:09:49 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: kfl%mx.lcs.mit.edu@mc.lcs.mit.edu Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 34 Approved: poli-sci@red.rutgers.edu I prefer to keep constitutional amendments as simple as possible. How about the following: The United States and no state shall make any law pertaining to private activities of informed, consenting persons. Activities are deemed private unless involving a clear and present danger to uninformed or non-consenting others. This intentionally does not define "informed", "consenting", or "person". I would like to think that our thoughts about these terms are evolving and improving over time. Lawyers and legislators manage to find invisible loopholes in the most lucid prose. Look at how they have managed to interpert away the second amendment! The main problem is 'clear and present danger'. This can be used to justify sodomy laws (to prevent spread of AIDS), drug laws (to prevent people from harming others while they are on drugs and not able to control their actions), prohibition of alcohol (on the same grounds as drugs), and prohibition of pornography (on the grounds that it (according to Meese) causes people to commit violent sex crimes). 'Informed' is another loophole. It can be argued that certain actions are so irrational that the person performing them must necessarily either be not informed or not sane. Also, do you think people should be allowed to play very loud music outdoors at 2 am? It certainly ruins a lot of people's sleep, but is it a clear and present danger? What about shining spotlights into people's windows at night? What about a peeping tom? What is the clear and present danger there? ...Keith -------