Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!decwrl!ucbvax!MITRE-BEDFORD.ARPA!bjp From: bjp@MITRE-BEDFORD.ARPA.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Mysterious ARP behavior on a tcp-ip ethernet Message-ID: <8607311932.AA09122@mitre-bedford.ARPA> Date: Fri, 1-Aug-86 00:08:16 EDT Article-I.D.: mitre-be.8607311932.AA09122 Posted: Fri Aug 1 00:08:16 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 1-Aug-86 08:41:30 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The MITRE Corp., Bedford, MA Lines: 39 Approved: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa I am looking to see if anyone out there can give me some information on what might be going on with our network. We have a 500 meter ethernet cable hooking together several sun workstations, a pc, a couple of Celerities, random other machines, an appletek bridge that gets us to a broadband cable with much else on it. TCP/IP are the networking protocols used and arp is used for address translation of IP internet addresses to 48 bit ethernet addresses. Some folks noticed bursts of ethernet broadcast messages recieved by an IBM PC that occured at intervals sometimes 15 seconds, sometimes 1 minute appart. I took a nutcracker and examined the traffic and took samples of the traffic including bursts of broadcast packets. I captured 128 octet slices of each packet in the traffic sample. I disassembled the hex codes to identify MAC frame fields and their contents, including the data field where I found either ip header info, or arp header info. Here is what I found. There were about 30 packets in each burst. Each was an arp request packet sent by a particular host looking for the ethernet address for 192.12.120.255 (255 is a reserved assigned number when in the host field means all hosts on 192.12.120, which is our network, mitre-b-net). This looked absurd - arp broadcasting to seek the ethernet address of what looked to me like an Internet style broadcast address for our network. Without fail this burst of arp mischief was preceded with an ethernet broadcast packet with an ip packet in its data field whose source address was either one of two guilty hosts and whose destination address was 192.12.120.255. One of the hosts is our gateway to the arpanet, milnet and many other wonderful places in the world. The plot thickens. I examined the translation tables on several hosts and found the internet address 192.12.120.255 with a big ? where an ethernet address would have been if arp had a sensible internet address for a specific target host to work with. Does anyone know why IP would do such a thing. Is this how IP forwards? If this is legitimate forwarding then why do arps do silly things with it? bj Pease