Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!mordor!sri-spam!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!SRI-SPAM.ARPA!gds From: gds@SRI-SPAM.ARPA (The lost Bostonian) Newsgroups: mod.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Lisp machines don't receive network level broadcasts right, causing net mayhem Message-ID: <8608050230.AA05544@sri-spam.arpa> Date: Mon, 4-Aug-86 22:30:20 EDT Article-I.D.: sri-spam.8608050230.AA05544 Posted: Mon Aug 4 22:30:20 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 5-Aug-86 23:19:21 EDT References: <860710153354.9.DCP@FIREBIRD.SCRC.Symbolics.COM> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 21 Approved: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa From: jnc@brubeck.proteon.com Hosts shouldn't be forwarding packets (or sending redirects) anyway. It is a complete bug that the LISP machine are even presuming to do either. I agree there is a bug with broadcast packets. But... if a non-gateway host receives a non-broadcast packet that is not for it, why shouldn't it BOTH forward it and send a redirect? How is the sender to know that it is sending packets to the wrong place? Why not use the icmp parameter problem message? Rather than dropping the packet on the floor, or worsening the problem by forwarding the packet or sending a redirect (question: what does the host redirect to?), it seems a reasonable way to let the sender know about the problem, and it costs the same as sending a redirect. All the ip implementations will have to be taught to do something with the parameter problem type, besides just accept it. --gregbo