Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!caip!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!XX.LCS.MIT.EDU!ELMO From: ELMO@XX.LCS.MIT.EDU Newsgroups: mod.telecom Subject: (none) Message-ID: <8607280012.AA15349@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Sun, 27-Jul-86 20:12:47 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8607280012.AA15349 Posted: Sun Jul 27 20:12:47 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 27-Jul-86 23:35:44 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 47 Approved: telecom@xx.lcs.mit.edu 2 Received: from IBM.COM by XX.LCS.MIT.EDU with TCP; Thu 24 Jul 86 09:42:04-EDT Date: 24 July 1986, 09:12:22 EDT FroTo: telecom@mit-xx.arpa Message-Id: <072486.091225.victor@ibm.com> Subject: Do long cords cause errors? ReSent-Date: Sun 27 Jul 86 19:59:54-EDT ReSent-From: The Moderator ReSent-Sender: ELMO@XX.LCS.MIT.EDU.#Internet ReSent-To: Telecom-Individual-Messages-List: ; ReSent-Message-ID: <12226133997.15.ELMO@XX.LCS.MIT.EDU> The following is an excerpt from a local bulletin board concerning accessing our main computer from home. Would anybody care to comment on the assertion that long telephone cords/long modem cables might cause the error rate on a line to go up drastically? > I think I have more-or-less solved my line error problem. While I was > crawling under my PC desk disconnecting a defective monitor, I noticed > that I had the remaining 5 feet of the 6-foot RS232 cable neatly coiled > & tied with cable ties, and hanging down behind the desk. Laying right > on top of it was an equally neat coil of the remaining 5 feet of the > 6-foot modem telephone cable! I separated the two, and the error rate > dropped somewhat. Then I made up a new short telephone cable -- just > long enough to reach from the modem to the telephone outlet, and the > error rate dropped significantly. I vaguely remember when I undid > the rat's nest & coiled those cables -- it roughly corresponds to when > the error problem became persistent. > > I have had the new arrangement for about two months now, & the error > rate has remained reasonably low, so (knock wood) I feel safe in > saying that my problem is solved. > > I don't know whether the mechanism causing the errors was coupling > from the phone line to the RS232 cable or vice-versa. One would > normally expect the RS232 cable to be more noise-resistent, but one > also wouldn't expect the RS232 cable to radiate noise when the terminal > was idle, and I was indeed getting errors while idle. > > The connection still isn't rock-solid -- I think I am getting more > errors than with the original rats-next arrangement. Some day I will > get around to making up a short RS232 cable and see if that improves > things further. Victor S. Miller victor@ibm.com IBM Research, Yorktown Heights