Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!caip!clyde!cbatt!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uiucdcsp!hogge From: hogge@uiucdcsp.CS.UIUC.EDU Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Re: Xerox Dandelion vs. Symbolics? Message-ID: <3500016@uiucdcsp> Date: Tue, 9-Sep-86 02:14:00 EDT Article-I.D.: uiucdcsp.3500016 Posted: Tue Sep 9 02:14:00 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 9-Sep-86 21:53:38 EDT References: <7608@tekecs.UUCP> Lines: 17 Nf-ID: #R:tekecs.UUCP:7608:uiucdcsp:3500016:000:781 Nf-From: uiucdcsp.CS.UIUC.EDU!hogge Sep 9 01:14:00 1986 >...I spent about 4 days using >the Symbolics, and my initial reaction was that the user interface was out >of the stone age. But I realize this has more to do with *my* background >then with Zetalisp itself. Four days *might* be enough time to get familiarize yourself with the help mechanisms, if that's specifically what you were concentrating on doing. Once you learn the help mechanisms (which aren't bundled all that nicely and are rarely visible on the screen), your opinion of the user interface will grow monotonically with use. If you are interested in having more visible help mechanisms for first-time users, check out what the TI Explorer adds to the traditional Zetalisp environment. LMI and Sperry also provide their own versions of the environment. --John