Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!lll-lcc!pyramid!decwrl!sun!lyang From: lyang@sun.uucp (Larry Yang) Newsgroups: net.arch Subject: Re: Computing with Neural Circuits: Message-ID: <6101@sun.uucp> Date: Wed, 13-Aug-86 14:09:50 EDT Article-I.D.: sun.6101 Posted: Wed Aug 13 14:09:50 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 14-Aug-86 08:24:07 EDT References: <1883@ecsvax.UUCP> <64300001@prism> <894@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> Reply-To: lyang@sun.UUCP (Larry Yang) Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 51 In article <894@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> mangler@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu (System Mangler) writes: >In article <64300001@prism>, brian@prism.UUCP writes: >> Perhaps I'm being overly simplistic, but doesn't this neural network >> stuff seem similar to ANALOG networks of non-linear devices? > >(Being even more simplistic) As near as I can tell, neural network >circuits are made of threshold logic. When a 'neuron' has more >excitory inputs true than inhibitory inputs, it fires. That's >threshold logic. The stuff is described in all the old digital >switching theory books (such as Kohavi) but nobody seems to have >used it until Hopfield. Doesn't look very analog to me. [Being a little less simplistic] A neuron receives neural input at its dendrites, the receiving end of the nerve cell. Although the incoming excitatory inputs are action potentials, sort of on-off signals propagating in from the previous nerve's axon, the signals in the dendrites are actually "graded" (i.e., analog). It is roughly safe to say that the faster the action potentials come in, the greater this graded signal is. (There are probably exceptions to this; there are exceptions to every rule in biology.) How this dendrite signal behaves is modulated by the inhibitory inputs on the dendrites; these inputs tend to be analog; that is, the greater the inhibit signal, the more the dendrite signal is modified. The resulting signal moves through the cell body and starts down the axon. If the signal is above a certain threshold, the axon fires an action potential (spike) and the signal goes on down the axon to impinge onto the next cell. If the signal is too weak, it just dies out (cell walls are VERY resistive). This threshold can also be modified by many things; chemical (e.g., drugs) and electrical. In other parts of the nervous system, analog information is more prevelant. In the optical system, signals coming off of the retina are in the form of graded potentials. Information regarding shapes and motion of objects is encoded by different _rates_ of firing of action potentials in nerves, as found by Hubel and Wiesel. In the auditory system, volume is also encoded by rates of firing of nerves. Thus, although signals appear to be digital because of the on-off nature of the action potentials, it is the amount of these signals (in the form of both more excitatory inputs and higher rate of excitation) that is the important factor. Therefore, it is not proper to say that the nervous system is analog or digital, but a happy mixture of both. -- -- Larry Yang Sun Microsystems, Inc. Mountain View, CA 94043