Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!brahms!desj From: desj@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU (David desJardins) Newsgroups: net.arch,net.crypt Subject: Re: VERY LARGE main memories: cryptography Message-ID: <15505@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Tue, 2-Sep-86 05:09:15 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.15505 Posted: Tue Sep 2 05:09:15 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 2-Sep-86 20:59:19 EDT References: <1130@bu-cs.bu-cs.BU.EDU> <2289@peora.UUCP> <1046@hoptoad.uucp> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: desj@brahms.UUCP (David desJardins) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 20 Xref: mnetor net.arch:2928 net.crypt:566 In article <1046@hoptoad.uucp> gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) writes: >This is certainly a useful technique in cryptography. Someone wrote >a paper on how to break DES that involved writing many megabytes of stuff >on magtape so you could get it back quickly later when breaking an >encrypted message. Things would be a lot more tractable if the table >was in RAM instead. > >Even a medium sized company or country could probably buy enough RAM >to decrypt DES quickly. While I'm not a big fan of DES, I don't think this is very accurate. Unless there is some radically new method that no one outside NSA knows about (I'm not ruling this out; it just seems that there is no sensible way to discuss it), there is no way that a single-processor machine is going to break DES in a reasonable period of time. And that is what this discussion is about, large single-processor (or perhaps a few processors, but not hundreds or thousands) machines with large amounts of memory. -- David desJardins