Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!ll-xn!cit-vax!tybalt.caltech.edu!beckenba From: beckenba@tybalt.caltech.edu.Caltech.Edu (Joseph R. Beckenbach) Newsgroups: net.arch Subject: Re: VERY LARGE main memories: crypt Message-ID: <972@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> Date: Thu, 11-Sep-86 21:00:27 EDT Article-I.D.: cit-vax.972 Posted: Thu Sep 11 21:00:27 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 11-Sep-86 22:47:59 EDT References: <15505@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <5100124@ccvaxa> Sender: news@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu Reply-To: beckenba@tybalt.caltech.edu.UUCP (Joseph R. Beckenbach) Organization: Calfornia Institute of Technology Lines: 42 In article <5100124@ccvaxa> preece@ccvaxa.UUCP writes: > >> /* Written 4:16 pm Sep 7, 1986 by bwong@ihwpt.UUCP in ccvaxa:net.arch */ >> If there are only that many electrons in the whole universe, how can >> you develop storage, using electrons, that is as large ? >---------- >Virtual memory. > >-- >scott preece >gould/csd - urbana >uucp: ihnp4!uiucdcs!ccvaxa!preece >arpa: preece@gswd-vms Newsgroups: net.arch Subject: Re: VERY LARGE main memories: crypt Summary: virtual memory ~> #electrons in universe Expires: 3 October 1986 References: <15505@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <5100124@ccvaxa> Reply-To: beckenba@tybalt.caltech.edu.UUCP (Joseph R. Beckenbach) Organization: Calfornia Institute of Technology Keywords: memory In article <5100124@ccvaxa> preece@ccvaxa.UUCP writes: >> If there are only that many electrons in the whole universe, how can >> you develop storage, using electrons, that is as large ? >Virtual memory. >scott preece The point is that our memory is based on electrons. Open eyes, please. Virtual memory must be supported somewhere, or else when we turn our attention from that section of memory, it gets moved to oblivion. In current (small on this scale) virtual memory implemetations this support is hardware or media-- physical things-- with electrons (is this a chemistry/physics/science review for anyone?), or else ALL THAT INFORMATION GOES AWAY. Permanently, which is not memory by any imaginable definition. Meaning: virtual memory < #electrons in universe. We need a few for electron-positron research :-), computer power, and TV power :-(. End digression from virtual implementations. Please. --- JRB3