Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!columbia!caip!clyde!watmath!watnot!cbbrowne From: cbbrowne@watnot.UUCP (Christopher Browne) Newsgroups: net.arch Subject: Re: electrons as a bound on memory size (was VLMM, crypt) Message-ID: <12007@watnot.UUCP> Date: Thu, 18-Sep-86 14:43:35 EDT Article-I.D.: watnot.12007 Posted: Thu Sep 18 14:43:35 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 19-Sep-86 23:56:56 EDT References: <15505@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <5100124@ccvaxa> <972@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> <505@gvax.cs.cornell.edu> Reply-To: cbbrowne@watnot.UUCP (Christopher Browne) Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 31 Keywords: :-) In article <505@gvax.cs.cornell.edu> jqj@gvax.cs.cornell.edu (J Q Johnson) writes: >JRB3 writes: >>The point is that our memory is based on electrons. > >It has been argued that the number of electrons in the universe puts a bound >on the potential maximum memory size of a computer. Reflection should convince >you that this argument is specious: the real limitation is the number of >different energy states possible, and hence is constrained only by the Pauli >exclusion principal and by your imagination. As a simple example, you can >encode more than 1 bit of data with a single electron in the shell of a >hydrogen atom simply by using different energy states. For that matter you >can encode data within a nucleus by using different energy states. > It should be remembered that if we are trying to model all of the electrons in the universe at the beginning, (assuming that more have not come into existance, which really fouls things up anyway), we must consider all of the possible energy states for each electron. Thus, much more than one bit per electron to be modeled. There aren't enough electrons to allow storage of the data, as well as to run the computer & program to process the data. :-) -- Christopher Browne University of Waterloo Faculty of Mathematics "To do is to be." -- Aristotle "To be is to do." -- Socrates "Do be do be do." -- Sinatra "Do be a do bee." -- Miss Sally of Romper Room fame. "Yabba dabba do." -- Fred Flintstone "DO...BEGIN..END" -- Niklaus Wirth