Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!ut-sally!im4u!milano!wex From: wex@milano.UUCP Newsgroups: net.cog-eng,net.research Subject: Re: Utterances Message-ID: <2133@milano.UUCP> Date: Fri, 22-Aug-86 13:23:53 EDT Article-I.D.: milano.2133 Posted: Fri Aug 22 13:23:53 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 22-Aug-86 22:01:00 EDT References: <639@bcsaic.UUCP> <792@aimmi.UUCP> Sender: wex@milano.UUCP Distribution: net Organization: MCC, Austin, TX Lines: 30 Summary: what makes an utterance "new"? Xref: mnetor net.cog-eng:261 net.research:408 In article <792@aimmi.UUCP>, gilbert@aimmi.UUCP (Gilbert Cockton) writes: > In article <639@bcsaic.UUCP> douglas@bcsaic.UUCP writes: > >What percentage of the utterances made in the world have been made before? > > Depends where you are and how clockwork the people are. Put yourself > amongst a group of high conformers and you could be up to 80%. I find > some stereotype-fitting groups (e.g. Sloans, provincial business men, > Militants, Born-again Christians, worn out Trade Unionists, > politicians, usenet policemen, etc. etc. ad nauseam) boringly predictable. I think that Mr. Cockton misinterprets the original posting, but does so in an interesting way. It seemed to me that the original request had to do with linguistic repetitions, where a sentence is repeated word-for-word. (Aside: do translations count?) What Cockton has done is to cast the question in the semantic domain by remarking on some people's lack of original thought. It is not important what words they use; the ideas are repeated. That leads to the interesting question: "how much thought is original?" If the answer is low, then ought we emphasize `research' that's just sophisticated searching of previously- recorded knowledge? -- Alan Wexelblat ARPA: WEX@MCC.ARPA or WEX@MCC.COM UUCP: {ihnp4, seismo, harvard, gatech, pyramid}!ut-sally!im4u!milano!wex "It is quite impossible for any design to be `the logical outcome of the requirements' simply because, the requirements being in conflict, their logical outcome is an impossibility."