Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!princeton!caip!andromeda!argus!ken From: ken@argus.UUCP (Kenneth Ng) Newsgroups: net.crypt Subject: Re: randomly adding bits/bytes Message-ID: <437@argus.UUCP> Date: Sat, 9-Aug-86 09:21:38 EDT Article-I.D.: argus.437 Posted: Sat Aug 9 09:21:38 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 11-Aug-86 04:02:31 EDT References: <8608042018.AA04376@ucbjade.Berkeley.Edu> Organization: NJ Inst of Tech., Newark NJ Lines: 43 In article <8608042018.AA04376@ucbjade.Berkeley.Edu>, simsong@wisdom.bitnet (Simson L. Garfinkel) writes: > > There are other ways of making a message difficult to decrypt. Perhaps > the best is to use a space-compression program on it first. When > decrypting a message, people (and computers) take advantage of > redundancy (sp?) in a file -- the same redundancy which space > compression programs remove. Using compress(1) before using crypt(1) or > a DES-based system is an excellent idea, as long as the person at the > other ends knows to uncompress(1) the message afterwards. Interesting idea, it just so happens that a project around here may be using something very similar to that. The scheme is using Lempal Ziv compression to compress the text, resulting in essentially random information, with redundent text removed. The output of that is then fed through a 256 byte translate table. Thus both sides must have only the translate table to communicate back and forth. Does anyone know how resistent to cracking this method would be? It hasn't been implemented yet, so if someone finds a hole in it, we'd like to know about it soon. > > (By the way, speaking of crypt(1) -- its been terribly broken. There's > a program at MIT by Bob Baldwin that breaks even small samples of > crypt(1) generated cyphertext. Don't use crypt(1)) Interesting, is that program commonly available? > Simson L. Garfinkel > MIT Media Lab > Summer: Weizmann Institute of Science, Israel -- Kenneth Ng: Post office: NJIT - CCCC, Newark New Jersey 07102 uucp(for a while) ihnp4!allegra!bellcore!argus!ken !psuvax1!cmcl2!ciap!andromeda!argus!ken *** WARNING: NOT ken@bellcore.uucp *** bitnet(prefered) ken@njitcccc.bitnet or ken@orion.bitnet Spock: "Captain, you are an excellent Starship Captain, but as a taxi driver, you leave much to be desired." Kirk: "What do you mean, 'if both survive' ?" T'Pow: "This combat is to the death"