Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!cbosgd!ucbvax!hplabs!utah-cs!cetron From: cetron@utah-cs.UUCP (Edward J Cetron) Newsgroups: net.decus Subject: Re: Western Regional DECUS Symposium Message-ID: <3911@utah-cs.UUCP> Date: Mon, 8-Sep-86 12:45:50 EDT Article-I.D.: utah-cs.3911 Posted: Mon Sep 8 12:45:50 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 10-Sep-86 04:47:23 EDT References: <418@rtech.UUCP> Reply-To: cetron@utah-cs.UUCP (Edward J Cetron) Distribution: net Organization: Center for Engineering Design, Univ of Utah Lines: 29 I am sorry about the poor performance of the regional symposium but I have always felt that they were usually run on too much of a shoe- string budget without enough support for 'big-name' speakers... But I respond mainly due to you last line that DECUS is just for novices or gurus.... Yes it is very important for novices so we agree there, but for the mid-level person it is still very important....I have been involved with the RSX sig for many years and given many,many presentations. I have been considered a guru of rsx for several years....Yet I STILL learn things at DECUS symposia, the contacts of people and friends have helped immensely.. I still go to symposia NOT to impress the novices but to help. I spent a lot of time learning, hacking and beating the hell out of RSX and I remember to previous generation of guru's who helped me....Now I spend most of my time between U*ix and VMS, and speak RSX mainly to pass it on to the next generation (and its more fun then my job...) But yes, DECUS has been concentrating on the novices lately, but we held polls for the last 6 national symposia and a full 75% were first-timers and novices....so you can't ignore them.... Before you give up on DECUS, try the national symposia in San Francisco and try to meet some of those RSX gurus...we really are nice guys (and except for the traditional cape which was retired) we don't have THAT big an ego... -ed cetron Center for Engineering Design Univ of Utah...