Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!nbires!hao!hplabs!sdcrdcf!randvax!obrien From: obrien@randvax.UUCP (Michael O'Brien) Newsgroups: net.lang.st80 Subject: What are new numbers equal to? Message-ID: <488@randvax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 26-Aug-86 19:42:48 EDT Article-I.D.: randvax.488 Posted: Tue Aug 26 19:42:48 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 28-Aug-86 01:38:20 EDT Reply-To: obrien@randvax.UUCP (Michael O'Brien) Organization: Rand Corp., Santa Monica Lines: 22 Keywords: number-classes initialization For reasons perhaps better left unexplained, I recently evaluated the expression "Float new = 0.0". Hmm. Should it be true? False? What value is in there, anyway? "nil" isn't a number. Is it still "nil"? BS II, of course, stepped off the curb. Ran itself out of space contemplating the philosophical wonderfulness of it all. Dolphin CV4 claimed it was "true", which is probably worse. The same question, of course, applies to "Integer new = 0", which also sends BS II out to lunch. Note that class SmallInteger evades the problem by overriding the message "new" and screaming at the user via a notifier. Now, no one in his right mind ever creates numbers this way, but the philosophical question remains, and it sure seems to me as if Smalltalkers are not, in general, shy of philosophical questions. Comments? -- Mike O'Brien The Rand Corporation {sdcrdcf,decvax}!randvax!obrien obrien@rand-unix.arpa