Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!hoptoad!gnu From: gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) Newsgroups: net.mail Subject: Re: Congress is now debating the future of Usenet Message-ID: <1043@hoptoad.uucp> Date: Thu, 28-Aug-86 03:17:03 EDT Article-I.D.: hoptoad.1043 Posted: Thu Aug 28 03:17:03 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 28-Aug-86 21:31:25 EDT References: <1632@well.UUCP> <1013@hoptoad.uucp> <15341@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <15406@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Organization: Nebula Consultants in San Francisco Lines: 28 In article <15406@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>, David desJardins writes: > I see no moral or legal reason > why any Usenet site should have any responsibility whatsoever to the > individual who happened to originate the text of a particular message at > a site with which they have no interaction whatsoever, under either existing > or proposed law. A site's only responsibility is and should be to the sites > to which it sends and from which it receives. This is certainly David's point of view. I don't think that this is what the current bill proposes, though. The bill gives the originator of a message the right to sue people who disclose it. Fabrications about my not really originating a message, it was originated by decvax when it passed the message to ucbvax, will not fool anybody, even a judge. [This is why I first got upset about the bill -- it changes the rules for our electronic mail system, without our consent.] If I send an email message through David's site, and he intercepts it and discloses it, the bill lets me sue him. If he's interested I'm sure we can put it to the test... David, I suggest you call a staffer on the Judiciary Committee and ask them which interpretation is intended by the authors. Try Cindy Blackburn at 202-224-8059. -- John Gilmore {sun,ptsfa,lll-crg,ihnp4}!hoptoad!gnu jgilmore@lll-crg.arpa May the Source be with you!