Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!cmcl2!husc6!caip!clyde!cbatt!cbosgd!mark From: mark@cbosgd.UUCP (Mark Horton) Newsgroups: net.mail Subject: Re: Domains: Multiple names OK? (really, decommissioning of nicknames) Message-ID: <2528@cbosgd.UUCP> Date: Tue, 9-Sep-86 00:39:27 EDT Article-I.D.: cbosgd.2528 Posted: Tue Sep 9 00:39:27 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 9-Sep-86 08:52:21 EDT References: <566@mecc.UUCP> <2502@cbosgd.UUCP> <3920@ut-ngp.UUCP> <41448@beno.seismo.CSS.GOV> <3936@ut-ngp.UUCP> <1237@umd5> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, Oh Lines: 48 What it boils down to is this: we're moving from a flat name space ("seismo") to a tree structured name space ("seismo.css.gov"). A flat name space is easier for the users, as long as the user already knows the name to use. But as the electronic world grows, flat name spaces become unmanageable. Can you imagine the telephone model "Operator? Get me John Smith." being used on a worldwide telephone network? There's a horrible ambiguity problem (which "John Smith" do you want?) and a routing problem ("where should I look to find John Smith's phone line?"). Expecting that every host will always be callable with a single, flat, name like "seismo" is impossible - you run into name collisions if you don't have a central registry, and long delays and high costs for registering new hosts if you do have a registry. (There's also the problem that no one registry is recognized by everybody: UUCP, BITNET, ARPANET, DEC, etc, all have their registries, and their own bilbo's and vortex's.) The price you pay is that you have to type "seismo.css.gov". The benefit you get is that now, using the same standard syntax, you can communicate with the rest of the world, such as UUCP (cbosgd.ATT.COM) which you had to kludge through a gateway address before. Now, it is a good idea for a particular implementation to try to maintain upward compatibility when making a change of this magnitude. For example, on UUCP, we encourage RFC976's addresses like rick@seismo.css.gov, but we also support ihnp4!seismo!rick and rick@seismo.uucp for upward compatibility. (We don't promise that these will continue forever, however.) I would think that on the ARPANET, a mail system that sees rick@seismo would assume that rick@seismo.ARPA was meant, but evidently many implementations don't do this. Those of you (both of you?) complaining about seismo.css.gov should be grateful you aren't using an X.400 system. (This is what the phone companies will probably be forcing upon you within 10 years, since it's now an international standard.) You'll have to run some nonstandard user interface and fill out a form, like this: Country USA ADMD AT&T PRMD ARPA Organization Center for Seismic Studies DDA=Machine seismo PName: Surname Adams Given Name Rick These names are considered so untypeable that everyone assumes you'll get it somehow (probably off a piece of incoming mail) and save it in an alias file. Mark