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From: mc68020@gilbbs.UUCP (Thomas J Keller)
Newsgroups: net.mail
Subject: Re: Domains
Message-ID: <901@gilbbs.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 10-Sep-86 20:37:20 EDT
Article-I.D.: gilbbs.901
Posted: Wed Sep 10 20:37:20 1986
Date-Received: Thu, 11-Sep-86 21:33:59 EDT
References: <895@gilbbs.UUCP> <522@meccts.UUCP>
Organization: Gil's Place, Santa Rosa CA
Lines: 54
Summary: here we go again

In article <522@meccts.UUCP>, ahby@meccts.UUCP (Shane P. McCarron) writes:
> Don't be an idiot...  Or at least, don't let your ignornace show quite
> so well and claim to be the injured party.  You don't need a source
> license, or even sendmail to use domain style addressing.  There was
> a source sent out just recently in mod.sources which was a replacement
> for rmail.  The program (actually, set of programs) allows you to use
> full domain addressing, as well as smart rerouting of mail coming out of
> and through your site.
> 
> Next time, think and look a little before you snipe at the source
> license sites who brought you the utilities you need to live in this

   OK.  Here we go again.  Listen, friends, I aprreciate the time and trouble
that many of you go to to provide software and guidance (not to mention
communications and maintenance) for the net.  I recognize that it is
virtually impossible to write software that will port directly to *EVERY*
version of UNIX that is out there on the net.

   *HOWEVER*:  the use of long identifiers (in both C code AND preprocessor
code), and other relatively recent additions to C makes it EXTREMELY
difficult for many of us to actually USE that software.  Some of us can't
*GET* other C compilers, for various reasons.  Some of us are/were
unfortunate enough to have purchased systems from vendors who don't give a
flying f**k, and we can't afford to scrap them and buy new ones.

   The new mailers make heavy use of neat goodies like enumerated data 
types, which many of us pcc based users can't deal with.

   Which puts us right back where we were, doesn't it:  if you're not
wealthy enough to have the latest and greatest, screw you!

   (I might also add that while I can expect, and to some extent am willing to
accept ad hominem attacks in places like net.politics or net.women,  I do
not consider them in the least acceptable or appropriate for this group.
)

   Furthermore, I have received several letters with much the same flavor as
this.  What is it with UNIX people, does the software interfere with your
ability to treat someone who isn't as knowledgable with a little dignity 
and respect?  To accept that not everybody knows everything there is to know
about UNIX, and that this does *NOT* make them worthless or pitiful?
It is this sort of "maintain the mystery" attitude among UNIX types which
is primarily responsible for the difficulty UNIX is having breaking into the
popular computing market.  Keep it up, and you just might succeed in killing`
UNIX off!

-- 

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