Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!mcvax!ukc!dcl-cs!stephen From: stephen@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Stephen J. Muir) Newsgroups: net.mail Subject: Re: Driving on the left side of the road :-) Message-ID: <396@comp.lancs.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 10-Sep-86 17:40:24 EDT Article-I.D.: comp.396 Posted: Wed Sep 10 17:40:24 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 11-Sep-86 21:45:39 EDT References: <2279@utai.UUCP> Reply-To: stephen@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Stephen J. Muir) Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK. Lines: 32 In article <2279@utai.UUCP> lamy@utai.UUCP (Jean-Francois Lamy) writes: >I am trying to communicate with a site in Britain, and I think I need >a basic network topology briefing > >The message is destined to site psg.npl.co.uk > >Our mailer sends mail in the uk domain to cs.ucl.ac.uk via X.25. If I >remember well, that machine is the gateway to the uk domain, where address >conversion to the "programming-language-style domains" takes place This is nothing to do with the domain order in this case. What has happened is that UKNET (the UK branch of USENET) has evolved separately from the two X.25 networks over here (JANET and PSS). A while ago, the UKNET powers to be decided that all UKNET sites should also have a domain-style name as used in JANET and PSS. Such domain names should be registered in the NRS (Name Registration Scheme), which is a central registry of domain-style UK names. Since, due to what I shall call "red tape", it is not very straightforward to register your name in the NRS, not all UKNET sites are registered there yet. I suspect many sites have given up trying! The machine "cs.ucl.ac.uk" is the "official" JANET<->ARPA gateway. It does not recognise UKNET names. The other gateway, known both as "ukc.ac.uk" and "ukc.uucp", recognises both the UKNET and domain-style names (whether registered in the NRS or not), but costs the UK site money both for incoming and outgoing mail. What I suggest you do is try "cs.ucl.ac.uk" first. If that fails, try the other one. -- EMAIL: stephen@comp.lancs.ac.uk | Post: University of Lancaster, UUCP: ...!mcvax!ukc!dcl-cs!stephen | Department of Computing, Phone: +44 524 65201 Ext. 4120 | Bailrigg, Lancaster, UK. Project:Alvey ECLIPSE Distribution | LA1 4YR