Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!columbia!caip!cbmvax!daveh From: daveh@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (Dave Haynie) Newsgroups: net.micro.68k Subject: Re: Re: Re: BYTE "68000" issue Message-ID: <732@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> Date: Fri, 12-Sep-86 16:16:00 EDT Article-I.D.: cbmvax.732 Posted: Fri Sep 12 16:16:00 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 12-Sep-86 22:28:14 EDT References: <3531@ism780c.UUCP> Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA Lines: 35 > > In article <710@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> daveh@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (Dave Haynie) writes: >> Incidently, as far as I've heard, none of the top 3 popular 68000 >> systems support the TAS instruction. The AMIGA executes a read >> cycle for TAS; I believe that it will crash either the Atari ST >> or Apple MAC. > > Sounds like someone is using AS to de-assert DTACK rather than UDS and > LDS. Is this correct? > > In the micro lab class I took when I was a student at Caltech, about half > the 68k systems students designed had this problem. > -- > I admit it! I don't believe in Mary Worth! I Lied! HaHaHaHaHaHa!!!!!! > > Tim Smith USENET: sdcrdcf!ism780c!tim Compuserve: 72257,3706 > Delphi or GEnie: mnementh I'm not sure if they look at /AS or /UDS and /LDS, but that's not the main reason. In the Amiga at least, the video processors share half of the memory cycle time (S0-S3). There's not enough time on the DRAM bus for a Read-Modify-Write cycle. While the ST and MAC system aren't doing things as complex with their video displays, they do share the bus and probably have similar memory constraints. -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Dave Haynie {caip,ihnp4,allegra,seismo}!cbmvax!daveh "I gained nothing at all from Supreme Enlightenment, and for that very reason it is called Supreme Enlightenment." -Gotama Buddha These opinions are my own, though for a small fee they be yours too. \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/