Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!hplabs!tektronix!uw-beaver!fluke!star From: star@fluke.UUCP (David Whitlock) Newsgroups: net.micro.amiga Subject: Re: Re: Graphics IFF File to Printer (Direct Dump) Message-ID: <3400@vax4.fluke.UUCP> Date: Sun, 10-Aug-86 18:55:42 EDT Article-I.D.: vax4.3400 Posted: Sun Aug 10 18:55:42 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 12-Aug-86 23:19:00 EDT References: <5802@sun.uucp> <586@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA Lines: 59 > > > > Actually Dave, most people use the Amiga printer driver to dump the image > > and have very little control of how the printer "renders" it. The > > philosophy being that the person who wrote the printer driver would make > > it produce the best possible rendition and the programmer need not worry > > about that aspect of creating an image. I don't know of an easy (read > > portable) way of going around the driver. > > > > --Chuck > > Actually, the print driver (read printer.device) allows a great deal of > flexability in the way it renders things. The problem is that most of > the paint programs out don't provide a good user interface to this > device, but simply set the device to produce the largest possible print > while maintaining a consistant aspect ratio. This is very simple to do > with the printer device, but greatly underutilizes its capabilities. > > -- > Dave Haynie {caip,ihnp4,allegra,seismo}!cbmvax!daveh This is exactly my point. In review of the drivers, I have found that the ratios could be manipulated thus producing fantastic results. Both EA's DPAINT and AEGIS's Images have lously interfaces for rendering true dumps. To defend AEGIS, they do have a method for specifying X and Y ratios but in the current version, there is a bug which causes the dump to come close but not quite. If you specify a ration of 640X and 240Y you should get a one pixel per one printer dot ratio with both spacing of X and Y dots the same. Images, allows you to set this ratio, but only in ODD numbers... So much for ratios (this is a bug soon to be fixed - next release). In Perry Kilowitzs (sorry Perry for murdering you name) claims that EA's DPAINT is done correctly by using the Preferences setting for colum width and lines per page, to spec the size of the dump. You are right!, but to me that still is a cludge. You should have absolute control! To demonstrate what I mean, use an Images' pattern of alternating black and white dots. Fill the screen, then dump it to the printer. If the aspect ratios were correct, not optomized for user simplicity, you would get what you see on the screen, on the printer!. Varing the ratio causes causes this alternating pattern to produce alternating blobs of dots. This is exactly what DPAINT does when it optomizes for its dump. Summary: A true printer dump for Mirrored images of what really is created on the screen, with user specified aspect ratios is needed. Conclusion: I am tired of looking at blobs. Don't get me wrong, some people like looking at blobs. *** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE *** -- Dave Whitlock {decvax!microsof,uw-beaver,ssc-vax,allegra,lbl-csam}!fluke!star --John Fluke Mfg. Co., 33031 Schoolcraft Road, Livonia, MI 48150