Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!caip!cbmvax!amiga!pyramid!decwrl!banks@viking.dec.com From: banks@viking.dec.com (Dawn Banks) Newsgroups: net.micro.amiga Subject: Re: Sidecar Message-ID: <5242@decwrl.DEC.COM> Date: Tue, 9-Sep-86 12:39:26 EDT Article-I.D.: decwrl.5242 Posted: Tue Sep 9 12:39:26 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 11-Sep-86 06:03:10 EDT Sender: daemon@decwrl.DEC.COM Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 62 ~r}}ixxxxi~r~ri <- Eat dirt, lineeater! In regard to the flaming surrounding the upcoming sidecar, I thought I'd squirt a little lighter fluid over the coals. In particular, I'm left wondering whether the folks at CA are getting out of the useful computer business, or just starting subsidiaries in the 1BM PC clone and office furniture businesses. A month or so ago, I got to see a sidecar, and ask some questions about it. The person I was talking to was either a CA representative, or some distributor of CA equipment. Me: Looks neat. I want a hard disk on my machine for less than the Amiga costs. Will this help me? Him: Sure. You can put any off the shelf hard-card into it, and it'll work fine. Me: Can I access it from the Amiga, or just the 8088. Him: No. Well, yes you can. I mean, you partition the disk between the 8088 and the Amiga. Me: What if I want the whole disk to be dedicated to the Amiga? Him: Can't do that. Anyway, you gotta get the whole 8088 system with the sidecar. Me: (stupidly realizing for the first time that the sidecar isn't the SCSI interface I was looking for). Ok, look: All I want is a cheap SCSI interface so I can put cheap SCSI disks on the machine. Him: Well, you can do that with the Sidecar. Me: What if I don't want to pay for the 8088 system? What if I just want a SCSI interface and nothing else? Him: You're out of luck. We're just interested in getting this Sidecar to market. Me: If I were interested in a PC clone, don't you think I'd have bought one in the first place? It sounds like you guys are getting out of the Amiga business, and into the PC clone business. Only problem is, that all I'm interested in is an Amiga, and not a PC clone. What are you guys going to do with the Amiga? Him: Excuse me, I gotta talk to someone else. So, youse guys at Commodore Amiga, what's the deal? Are we in the Amiga business, or the PC clone business. The Sidecar is a neat hack, but if you were serious about selling PC alternatives (like Amigas), you'd be introducing products that make the Amiga a nicer machine to work on, rather than making it a front end for yor competitor's architecture. In the mean time, the only reasonable hard disk alternatives we've seen cost as much or more than the Amiga does in the first place. It wouldn't be so bad if that were the going rate for hard disks, but from what I've seen on the market, it's highway robbery. {disclaimer} (DEC E-NET) Viking::Banks (UUCP) {decvax, ucbvax, allegra}!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-Viking!Banks (ARPA) Banks%Viking.DEC@decwrl.ARPA