Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!caip!cbmvax!grr From: grr@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (George Robbins) Newsgroups: net.micro.atari16,net.micro.amiga,net.micro.68k Subject: Re: 68000 Memory Managment Message-ID: <751@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> Date: Fri, 19-Sep-86 02:20:43 EDT Article-I.D.: cbmvax.751 Posted: Fri Sep 19 02:20:43 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 20-Sep-86 00:41:17 EDT References: <508@elmgate.UUCP> <64@mit-prep.ARPA> <510@elmgate.UUCP> <79@mtxinu.UUCP> <462@jc3b21.UUCP> Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.UUCP (George Robbins) Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA Lines: 32 Xref: mnetor net.micro.atari16:2004 net.micro.amiga:4730 net.micro.68k:1238 In article <462@jc3b21.UUCP> fgd3@jc3b21.UUCP (Fabbian G. Dufoe) writes: >Using the untranslated addresses as the RAS addresses and doing the MMU >address translation before the column addresses are needed for CAS sounds >pretty general to me. I am sure the process Andy Bechtolsheim patented is >quite a bit more specific. A patent cannot be granted for a general idea. >It requires a specific implementation of an idea, either in a device or >process. Think about it. Without that provision patents would stifle >development. They are intended to do just the opposite. A patent is >supposed to protect the inventor of a process from those who would use his >work as their own. But it is not supposed to prevent people from using a >concept the inventor has brought to light in their own inventions, so long >as they don't plaigiarize from the original work. > > Fabbian Dufoe > UUCP: ...akgua!akguc!codas!peora!ucf-cs!usfvax2!jc3b21!fgd3 On the other hand, it is normal for a person filing a patent application to make as broad a claim as he thinks reasonable. The are a number of highly irritating patents covering things like mice, pull down windows, and character generator ROM's. If you read the patent applications, you immediately say 'this guy has got to be kidding', but unfortunatly, they are for real. It is up to a manufacturer to make sure that they do not use ideas that are patented. If Sun chooses to enforce their patent, they could cause a small operation a lot of pain. The patent may not seem reaonable, but it was granted, and until someone invests the neccessary legal time and money to contest it, it is legally enforcable. -- George Robbins - now working for, uucp: {ihnp4|seismo|caip}!cbmvax!grr but no way officially representing arpa: cbmvax!grr@seismo.css.GOV Commodore, Engineering Department fone: 215-431-9255 (only by moonlite)