Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!MITRE-BEDFORD.ARPA!jhs From: jhs@MITRE-BEDFORD.ARPA Newsgroups: net.micro.atari8 Subject: Re: Video games on 8-bit machines Message-ID: <8609021529.AA26064@mitre-bedford.ARPA> Date: Tue, 2-Sep-86 11:41:56 EDT Article-I.D.: mitre-be.8609021529.AA26064 Posted: Tue Sep 2 11:41:56 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 2-Sep-86 21:09:43 EDT References: <418@unm-la.UUCP> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The MITRE Corp., Bedford, MA Lines: 31 I recommend the Atari 800XL, which is currently selling at Toys R Us for $69.99. Also available mail order at that price if Toys R Us is sold out. (In fact I recommend buying a second one as a spare!) The 800XL can be used to produce RGB output if you are willing to build up a special circuit for the purpose (basically requiring 1 IC). The trick is to bring out the CHROMA signal separately and keep it separate into the chroma input of the NTSC decoder chip. The NTSC composite output has a filter to band limit the Chroma to keep it from spilling over into the luminance signal. If you decode the COMPOSITE signal this band limiting will limit resolution to far less than you can get by handling the Chroma separately. I am told that if you use the unfiltered LUMINANCE and CHROMA signals as the starting point and design the circuit carefully, the resolution of an RGB output can be made essentially as good as any RGB monitor can resolve. A relative of mine has been helping a friend design such a converter, and I might be able to get some design hints, maybe even a schematic diagram if there is interest. The 800XL, unlike the video game units, can be expanded into a fairly useable general-purpose home computer for word processing, learning programming, and even fairly serious business applications. In this day and age of megabytes, it is easy to forget that a 1.78-MHz clock and 65K bytes used to be considered a darn powerful computer! (More than a PDP-8 for example.) -John Sangster jhs@mitre-bedford.arpa P.S. - Currently the 1050 disk drive is selling for around $125 mail order. A TV set, 800XL and 1050 is enough to do some serious applications with. The Commodore is considerably more expensive, the disk drive is slower, and those who really know say the operating system is a real kludge compared to what Atari provides.