Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!panda!harvard!husc6!think!nike!caip!cbmvax!bpa!burdvax!sdcrdcf!psivax!csun!cs1!cbcscmst From: cbcscmst@cs1.UUCP (Michael Steven Temkin) Newsgroups: net.micro.cbm Subject: Re: Re: GEOS Comments Message-ID: <232@cs1.UUCP> Date: Wed, 6-Aug-86 03:01:58 EDT Article-I.D.: cs1.232 Posted: Wed Aug 6 03:01:58 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 11-Aug-86 03:52:38 EDT References: <231@cs1.UUCP> <15094@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Organization: Calif State Univ, Northridge, Computer Science Dept Lines: 108 Keywords: Is it really worth it? Summary: Let's shoot again! In article <15094@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>, deboor@ucbarpa.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP writes: > Warning: My opinions may be tainted by the fact that I work for Berkeley > Softworks. > > > Perhaps you are using version 1.0? Version 1.2 is available to registered users > who bought 1.0, and is the only version on sale at retail stores. No, my disk distinctly says 1.2 on it. This may be because I did not purchase it at a retail house, I bought it from ComputAbility for $39.95 not $59.95 (including Q-Link which by the way is an excellent CBM service). > > The geoPaint that I know from work is multi-color (limited by the C64s hardware > of course, 2 colors per card). I hate to burst your bubble, but 2 colors per card (8x8 pixels) is hires not multi-color which is 4 colors per card (foreground, background, and 2 colors that are static for the entire screen). > The text works well. (Did you open a rectangle > to place the text in, before typing?) All fonts and styles area available in > geoPaint. Yes, I opened the rectangle, but all I got was a 'Text Scrap not available in version 1.1'. > If I recall correctly (I haven't used geoPaint extensively, only > occasionally) to quit without saving, you only need to select the 'quit' option > from the 'file' menu (rather than 'close'). Please use it more often since when I exit the file is updated.> > I have not seen Fontmaster II, but I will say, in geoWrites favor, that you > are able to paste in pictures that you have created in geoPaint to get > quite a good effect in your document. Point conceded, as Fontmaster II does not allow you to paste pictures in the text. It does however let you define character sets (fonts) of your own, even as graphic pictures if you wish. > Mice...The official company line is: "When Commodore releases a proportional > mouse (like the Macs) Berkeley Softworks will support it". (End company > line). The difference a proportional mouse makes is incredible. > > Support is in the works for Koala-pads, and light-pens, as soon as we can > get to them. I will not argue on this point, but please post as to what the difference between a proportional and normal mouse are. Also is there an apporx time for the Koala-pad and light pen support to be released? How about the reference manual that I was told would be available in July by your company? > Things that we are working on are: > A desk accessory pack, including: > Calendar program > Art Grabber (to take art from other applications and paste them > into geoPaint) > BlackJack program > Icon editor > > A font pack, with a lot of neat fonts. > > These are due out in a month (or so, no guarantees). (We just finished > Beta-testing). Sounds great, but how about (as I previously stated) a design your own font application? > Other applications are a SpreadSheet, a DataBase, Chart program, Rolodex, > Merge programs (to merge data with a geoWrite document, to create form letters). > These are being worked on now. Sounds great! I am interested in the Ref. Manual so I can port a graphics system (2.5-D) from the IBM-PC to the C64 that two friends of mine and I wrote as a senior project at Cal. State U. Northridge. > Anyway, I hope that this clears up some of the confusion about what GEOS has, > and what it will get in the future. > > I apologize if this comes off as a commercial endorsement, it wasn't intended to > be. (Any flames to the address below). No need to apologize, this is the kind of response that I am sure we all were looking for. Keep in touch with the Commodore Public and we will all be a lot happier. > Oh yeah, The disk speed up is great, but you should see it run off a Ram-disk. > WOW. Love the speed up!! Ram disk for the C64? I have heard of it, how big does it expand the C64 to? Well, good luck in your endevors! -- .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Mike Temkin {inhp4,psivax,ttidca}!csun!cs1!cbcscmst Ours is not to question why...Or is it? .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.