Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!lll-crg!lll-lcc!well!hoptoad!tim From: tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac Subject: Re: Rabid Defense of Multi-Tasking Message-ID: <1051@hoptoad.uucp> Date: Wed, 3-Sep-86 05:11:29 EDT Article-I.D.: hoptoad.1051 Posted: Wed Sep 3 05:11:29 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 4-Sep-86 05:28:02 EDT References: <419@sask.UUCP> <213@bridge2.UUCP> Reply-To: tim@hoptoad.UUCP (Tim Maroney) Distribution: net Organization: Centram Systems, Berkeley Lines: 23 About memory management, it seems certain to me that the Open Mac will contain an MC68851 Paged Memory Managment Unit chip. The Programmer's Workshop documentation contains complete support for and a number of references to this chip, as well as the MC68881 floating-point chip. The thing to remember is that this is an unreleased chip, with release tentatively scheduled for last quarter this year or first quarter next. Motorola is not giving even tentative pricing information on it yet. Given this, the only way for Apple to have enough of the chips to have provided full support in MPW for them is to have made a fairly firm agreement with motorola to purchase a shit-load of them; and it is unlikely they would have released documentation on communicating with the chip unless they expected it to be of wide interest in the Mac community. I haven't gotten an MC68851 manual yet, but I hope Motorola did better than the MC68451 segmented memory managment unit chip. The functionality of the chip was great, but it took 200 ns to translate a logical address to a physical one! Can you say "wait states"? I knew you could.... -- Tim Maroney, Electronic Village Idiot {ihnp4,sun,well,ptsfa,lll-crg,frog}!hoptoad!tim (uucp) hoptoad!tim@lll-crg (arpa) These are the official opinions of the Vatican Council of Bishops.