Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!lll-lcc!pyramid!amdahl!amdcad!jimb From: jimb@amdcad.UUCP (Jim Budler) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac Subject: Re: Apple SCSI HD20 Message-ID: <13035@amdcad.UUCP> Date: Tue, 16-Sep-86 17:23:42 EDT Article-I.D.: amdcad.13035 Posted: Tue Sep 16 17:23:42 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 16-Sep-86 21:47:07 EDT References: <491@randvax.UUCP> <154@apple.UUCP> <1791@well.UUCP> Reply-To: jimb@amdcad.UUCP (Jim Budler) Distribution: net Organization: AMD, Sunnyvale, California Lines: 29 In article <1791@well.UUCP> das@well.UUCP (David Shayer) writes: >But on to the main point. Price and performance. The Apple IIGS costs >$995, plus monitor and disk, which is $1600-$1900 list. Okay, so >maybe its $1400 at a discount. But the Atari costs $1000, complete. >The Apple IIGS runs at 3 MEGAHERTZ! Thats slower than an IBM PC. >My Bicycle can go faster than that. It comes with 256K, expandable >to 8 meg. How can Apple sell a computer with one third the speed and >one quarter the memory of an Atari 1040ST for 150% of the price? >Is there some vital point I have missed? One point: You are comparing apple (heh!) and oranges. The apple II benchmarked approx. 10% slower than the original IBM PC for a majority of functions ( as long as it did not require large address space). The 6502 at 1 MHz was very efficient. Clock speed alone does not determine speed!!! If the 16/32 bit 6502 ( I don't remember it's number) is as efficient, and I've heard they are, then a 3MHz clock speed should be quite respectable, perhaps as good as a 5.7 MHz effective 68000. -- Jim Budler Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. (408) 749-5806 Usenet: {ucbvax,decwrl,ihnp4,allegra,intelca}!amdcad!jimb Compuserve: 72415,1200 I got tired of my old signature.