Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!columbia!caip!clyde!cbatt!ihnp4!houxm!mtuxo!tms From: tms@mtuxo.UUCP (t.slaight) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac Subject: Re: Apple SCSI HD20 Message-ID: <1986@mtuxo.UUCP> Date: Wed, 17-Sep-86 13:04:23 EDT Article-I.D.: mtuxo.1986 Posted: Wed Sep 17 13:04:23 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 19-Sep-86 23:35:36 EDT References: <491@randvax.UUCP> <154@apple.UUCP> <1791@well.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Information Systems Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 28 > > But on to the main point. Price and performance. The Apple IIGS costs > $995, plus monitor and disk, which is $1600-$1900 list. Okay, so > maybe its $1400 at a discount. But the Atari costs $1000, complete. > The Apple IIGS runs at 3 MEGAHERTZ! Thats slower than an IBM PC. > My Bicycle can go faster than that. It comes with 256K, expandable > to 8 meg. How can Apple sell a computer with one third the speed and > one quarter the memory of an Atari 1040ST for 150% of the price? > Is there some vital point I have missed? > > David Shayer, WELL > well!das In response to the statement that the a 3 MHz 65816 is slower than the 4.77 MHz 8088 used in an IBM. There is always a fundamental problem when comparing processors: how many clocks are required to perform an instruction cycle. A memory access cycle on a 4.77 MHz 8088 requires 4 clock cycles - or about 840 nanoseconds. A basic memory access on a 3 Mhz 65816 requires 1 clock cycle - or about 333 nanoseconds. It is easy to conclude from this that it is not enough to judge relative performance on clock rates alone. I am pretty sure that a 65816 would blow a 4.77 MHz 8088 out of the water under most circumstances. (with the possible exception of some auto-looping string move instructions that the 8088 has) (These opinions are my own) --- Tom Slaight