Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rochester!pt.cs.cmu.edu!cadre!pitt!winfree!bdale From: bdale@winfree.UUCP (Bdale Garbee) Newsgroups: net.micro.ns32k Subject: Re: Help (?) for a beginner Message-ID: <87@winfree.UUCP> Date: Wed, 17-Sep-86 09:24:49 EDT Article-I.D.: winfree.87 Posted: Wed Sep 17 09:24:49 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 19-Sep-86 23:28:08 EDT References: <367@PSUECL> Reply-To: bdale@winfree.UUCP (Bdale Garbee) Organization: Bdale's Berkeley Box, Colorado Springs, CO Lines: 44 In article <367@PSUECL> mrb@psuecl.BITNET writes: >I would like to get familiar with the 32-bit microprocessors (hardware & >software, etc.). Jameco Electronics is selling the NSC Series 32000 designer >kits for $59.95 (32016) and $79.95 (32032). The kits are $57 and $75 respectively from distributors, if you know of one to talk to. I picked up one 32016 and a pair of 32032 kits at that price. >Your comments/assistance/warnings/caveats/suggestions are eagerly appreciated >and awaited. caveats: All the parts in the kits are 6Mhz parts, at least 10Mhz 32016 parts are available... I was disappointed, but not surprised... should be plenty fast enough for you to have fun playing with. I figure that with lots of DMA for I/O, it should go fast enough for my target prototype as well... The Tiny Development System stuff seems to want com ports based on 8251A USARTS. I guess this is ok, but would have been MUCH nicer if they added hooks for custom I/O routines. For what I'm doing, Z8530's are so much nicer. Think about what, if any, software you will have to run on the box when you're done. I have a Symmetric 375, and so have a full BSD C compiler/assembler/linker that should be easy to use generating ROM-able code for my target(s). Not sure what else is available, as I've never looked. As much as I like the 32XXX family, the 68XXX family at least has CP/M 68K and OS9 available... think about it. The bottom line? If you want to get into 32XXX hardware, the kits are neat. They come with loads of docs, plus a listing of a turbo-pascal program for a PC that will talk to TDS for uploading/downloading code from a PC. 6Mhz parts are a drag though. If you are not a 32XXX fan but are just looking to get in to this level of hardware, look at 68XXX stuff. A simple single board with 68000 8-10Mhz, a couple serial ports, disk, and a bunch of memory makes a VERY nice OS9 box... Software is THE issue. -- Bdale Garbee, N3EUA phone: 303/593-9828 h, 303/590-2868 w uucp: {bellcore,crash,hp-lsd,hpcsma,pitt,vixie}!winfree!bdale fido: sysop of 156/8 packet: n3eua @ wb0blv, Colorado Springs