Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!princeton!caip!sri-spam!nike!lll-crg!seismo!rochester!pt.cs.cmu.edu!g.cs.cmu.edu!kck From: kck@g.cs.cmu.edu (Karl Kluge) Newsgroups: net.rumor,net.misc Subject: Re: The TITANIC what really happened Message-ID: <1030@g.cs.cmu.edu> Date: Tue, 12-Aug-86 22:10:51 EDT Article-I.D.: g.1030 Posted: Tue Aug 12 22:10:51 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 15-Aug-86 06:01:30 EDT References: <1205@rayssdb.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI Lines: 95 Xref: watmath net.rumor:3032 net.misc:9981 Summary: More info on the TITANIC For those interested in the TITANIC, here is some info you might find useful: Basic sources: Lord, Walter. _A Night to Remember_. Minute by minute account of the sinking and rescue, with brief mention of reaction to the disaster on shore. Hardbound edition has many photos of the ship and its interior; paperback edition has plans of Boat Deck and bottom deck. Both include a complete passenger list, indicating who survived and who didn't. USA Today mentioned a new sequel, _The Night Lives On_. Made into an excellent film. Marcus, Geoffry. _Maiden Voyage_. The story from the Boat Train from London to the civil suit against the White Star Line. Negative account of US Senate Inquiry. Photos, copious footnotes. Wade, Craig Wyn. _TITANIC -- End of a Dream_. Rehabilitates US Senate Inquiry and its head, Sen. Smith of Michigan. Deck plans (almost unread- able in the paperback edition), photos, excellent bibliography. Treats the reaction on shore (the women-and-children-first ethic and the suff- ragettes, etc). (* All three of these will point you to other sources such as original survivor accounts, etc. *) Hoffman, William and Jack Grimm. _Beyond Reach: The Search for the Titanic_. An account of the expedition financed by Grimm to find the ship. Photos, picture of 1912 newspaper article reprinting the cargo manifest of the ship (worth about $420K 1912). Fiction: Cussler, Clive. _Raise the Titanic_. The first Dirk Pitt novel, and still one of Cussler's best. The only large supply of a rare element needed to construct an Astrodome ABM defense is in the hold of the Titanic, and the Russians want it too. The film is really bad compared to the book. *author's name slips my mind*. _The Memory of Eva Ryker_. An ex-policeman turned author is assigned to write the story of the 196x expedition which found the Titanic. The clue that unravels the case which led to his leaving the police force in disgrace is held buried in the mind of the daughter of the expedition's financier, who survived the disaster as a little girl. Made into what looked to be a terrible TV film. Book includes plan of part of B Deck, cross-section, plan of Boat Deck. Films not mentioned above: _Titanic_. Barbara Stanwyck, Clifton Webb. Great sets and attention to detail, poor plot that has the women and children huddling in boats while the men line the rail singing "Nearer, My God, To Thee." _SOS Titanic_. Made for TV. Fairly accurate, based on book by 2cd Class survivor Lawrence Beesley, but cheap -- they used the Queen Mary for some of the sets (nothing to destroy your suspension of disbelief like seeing the passengers of the Titanic walking into the dining room used in the _Poseidon Adventure_). Basic facts about the wreck: * Titanic was carrying 2207 people, with boats for 1178 of them. There were 713 survivors. Saved: Women & children Men 1st class 94% 31% 2cd class 81% 10% 3rd class 47% 14% crew 87% 22% *The stern section appears to have broken off about 1000 ft. underwater, and lies pointing in the opposite direction from the bow section about 2000 feet away from it. Several safes were spotted in the debris field between the the two sections, but none of them would be the safe from the 1st Class Purser's Office. One wonders if the Jason Jr. checked out the Purser's Office -- it's right off the Grand Staircase on C Deck, a deck above where the intact chandelier was photographed. *The cargo was worth only $420,000, but the 1st Class passengers carried jewelry worth far more than that ($5 million in diamonds, one strand of pearls insured for $600,000, $11,000 in jewelry left behind in one cabin alone). *While the Titanic sank less than 10 miles away, the Californian sat ignoring the distress rockets launched by the Titanic. The Californian did not have a 24-hour radio watch, and the radioman turned in just before the collision, hence the ship's SOS was not received by the Californian. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Karl Kluge (kck@g.cmu.cs.edu) Carnegie-Mellon University Any opinions expressed may not even be mine, let alone those of the people who pay me. "Nuke 'em from orbit -- it's the only way to be _sure_." "We're going to waste you now -- no offense."