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From: scw@locus.ucla.edu (Stephen C Woods)
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Subject: Re: B-52s use force.
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Date: Wed, 20-Aug-86 16:47:18 EDT
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Posted: Wed Aug 20 16:47:18 1986
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In article <1448@oddjob.UUCP> matt@oddjob.UUCP (Matt Crawford) writes:
>In article <257@killer.UUCP> tad@killer.UUCP (Tad Marko) writes:
>>
>>It would have almost been possible if
>>Jimmy Carter hadn't cancelled the program back in the 70's.  Then the
>>Air Force could have [..]would have 8 years ago.  Oh, well, that's
>>what happens when the government runs the military (things like Vietnam
>>happen, too).
>>
>>P.S.:	... I have a hard time not talking about military stuff
>>	when I get the chance, ...
>
>Tad, do you really [...] the estimate then in effect?  And

Well the inital batch came in almost exactly on budget, so Yes
I'd say that they had the costs just about correct.

>do you believ[...] ever have been fixed?  Do you know how much

Probably, most of the changes from the B1A to the B1B are to take advantage
of newer technology (read STEALTH) and improved avionics (read $$$).

>deception was used to "prove" that a B-52 with cruise missiles
>could not serve instead of a B-1?[...

The problem with the B52 (G & H) is that most of them are older that many
of the crew members. In addition the airframes are nearing the end of their
usefull life (Something on the order of 150,000 hours I believe). I do know
that the earlier aircraft now have a filght limitation of 250 Kt (350 Kt in
wartime) some 100 Kt slower than the speed allowed in the 60's.  What that
means it that even WWII vintage fighters now have a chance to intercept.

And I thought that cruise missiles were the \Bete Noire/ of the Anti-'nuke'
types. Although for the life of me I can't see why.


>                                 ...]Shut the mouth and open the
>mind, Tad.  You are being duped.  If it's any comfort, you are
>probably in the majority.

Duped?? sorry chum, it think that you're the one being duped.


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