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From: dce@mips.UUCP
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Subject: Re: Poor People
Message-ID: <665@mips.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 9-Sep-86 10:23:39 EDT
Article-I.D.: mips.665
Posted: Tue Sep  9 10:23:39 1986
Date-Received: Fri, 12-Sep-86 05:02:21 EDT
References: <343@ge-dab.UUCP> <199@su-russell.ARPA>
Reply-To: dce@mips.UUCP (David Elliott)
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Sunnyvale, CA
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Keywords: money

In article <199@su-russell.ARPA> goldberg@su-russell.UUCP (Jeffrey Goldberg) writes:
>In article <343@ge-dab.UUCP> byrnes@ge-dab.UUCP (Arthur J. Byrnes) writes:
>>       If we spend less on poor people, then we will 
>>have less poor people.
>
>Actually, taking them out and shooting them might have the same
>effect only it would be faster.  Mass gassing, I understand, is
>cheaper then wasting bullets.
>

I take this to mean that you think that cutting off poor people is
akin to starving them. I don't agree with this. I do know that this
statement has some shred of truth in it. There are poor people that
commit suicide simply because they are a burden to the family, and
many more have thought about it.

The question here is whether simply giving money to the poor is a good
idea. My opinion is that this country is creating a group of people
whose best skills involve filling out forms and standing in lines.

There are people in this country doing nothing because there is nothing
for them to do. What's wrong with creating jobs for these people?

People argue that creating jobs costs more money than simply giving
the money away. That's true, but you get what you pay for. If it costs
$10 an hour to pay someone $3.50 an hour to pick up litter out of
ditches, we get a clean ditch and a working person (but is this person
still poor?). If it costs $5 an hour to provide this person with a welfare
check, we get a clean conscience and some happy welfare workers.

>>Arthur J. Byrnes
>
>>Disclaimer: these opinions are my own.  (no one else 
>>wants them)
>How right you are!
>
>-Jeff Goldberg

Arthur was silly to add that extra line. I don't blame Jeff for this
last shot.

			David