Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!columbia!caip!clyde!cbatt!cbosgd!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!convex!sysvis!george From: george@sysvis.UUCP Newsgroups: net.news.adm Subject: Re: Orphaned Response Message-ID: <-127674840@sysvis> Date: Thu, 21-Aug-86 18:31:00 EDT Article-I.D.: sysvis.-127674840 Posted: Thu Aug 21 18:31:00 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 26-Aug-86 04:54:46 EDT References: <1276748@sysvis> Lines: 34 Nf-ID: #R:sysvis:-127674843:sysvis:-127674840:000:2147 Nf-From: sysvis.UUCP!george Aug 21 17:31:00 1986 From looking at just the responses posted so far (6), it looks as if the area code plan (and all stringent plans) fail miserably in some case. Why then shouldn't each site just declare itself as "master" or "feed" and leave the current uucp connections be? If this declaration only carried with it that "master" sites MUST carry all groups while "feed" sites carry some subset, then it shouldn't be too hard for all sites to satisfy their own requirements/wants in a reasonable and civilized interpersonal manner. What if each site makes a declaration on the USENET mod.map as to whether it carries a full line of groups or not? Would this then get most of the complaining out of the sites who do or do not want such and such? Each site could contact "the least cost" alternative master or feed sites to establish the kind of services that they are willing to pay for. It seems that it is also incumbent on each master site to establish at least one connection to another master site in order to get full sets exchanged. Basically, this is the way it works right now. So why do we have all of the whining and complaining about costs under the guise of spending more money (combined total labor cost is LARGE) to `police' the net from "undesirables?" If what I read about AT&T sites is true, it would be in their best long term interest to establish master sites in most large metro areas to which feed sites could dial in (at feed's cost) to get data from. Sort of a 900 number type thing where caller pays ?$ for each call. Am I thinking correctly here? I would think that it would be wise for there to be non-AT&T master sites also. Too much responsibility/control possibility otherwise. Even if Stargate becomes absolute reality, there will still need to be a ground network which gathers remote data and centralizes it for subsequent transmission. Some ground station(s) will still need to have data funneled into it(them). If the major complainers are allowed to cut the network up into little pieces, no one will find it helpful/amusing enough to use it and it will die a silent death. Maybe this is the desired goal of some?