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From: cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: net.sci,net.politics
Subject: Re: privatization of education
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Date: Wed, 13-Aug-86 18:43:12 EDT
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Posted: Wed Aug 13 18:43:12 1986
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> In article <977@kontron.UUCP> cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
> > > "The opinions that are held with passion are always those for which no good
> > > ground exists; indeed the passion is the measure of the holder's lack of
> > > rational conviction."  Bertrand Russell in "Skeptical Essays".
> > 
> > I also hold passionately to the belief that genocide is WRONG, and
> > under no circumstances should it be ignored or tolerated.  By Bertrand 
> > Russell's argument above, this means there is no rational conviction
> > behind it.
> 
> Ah, Clayton.  Always ready to misinterpret a rhetorical argument.
> 

Do you agree with Russell's above quoted statement asserting that opinions
held "with passion are always those for which no good ground exists" or
not?  I pointed out that the statement is blatantly false, and that Russell's
statement is reactionary to emotional positions.  Now you claim it was
a rhetorical argument.  Which is it?

> Obviously, the correct inference is that YOU have no rational conviction
> behind it.  Assuming, of course, that you really do have such a passionate
> belief.  Judging from your writings, you might well allow genocide if it was
> a free-market phenominon.  :-)
> 

I demand an immediate retraction of this libel.  Show ONE SINGLE POSTING
I HAVE EVER DONE THAT BACKS UP THIS LIE OF YOURS, OR I WILL FIND OUT WHAT
BASIS I HAVE FOR A LAWSUIT.

> A tongue in cheek prevents foot in mouth.
> 
> Mike Huybensz		...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh

First you take a position.  Then I point out it is untenable, and you
try to claim you weren't serious in the first place.

Clayton E. Cramer