Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!cbosgd!ihnp4!gargoyle!carnes From: carnes@gargoyle.UUCP (Richard Carnes) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.sci Subject: Re: Nuclear power: Petr Beckmann Message-ID: <551@gargoyle.UUCP> Date: Mon, 18-Aug-86 11:31:05 EDT Article-I.D.: gargoyle.551 Posted: Mon Aug 18 11:31:05 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 19-Aug-86 08:16:10 EDT References: <546@gargoyle.UUCP> <521@dg_rtp.UUCP> Reply-To: carnes@gargoyle.UUCP (Richard Carnes) Organization: U. of Chicago, Computer Science Dept. Lines: 55 Xref: watmath net.politics:18396 net.sci:1521 [Wayne Throop] > Q. Do I trust Beckmann's analyses? > A. No, he too obviously has an axe to grind. > > Q. Do I trust Ehrlich then? > A. No, he's just grinding the other side of the same axe. In my postings on nuclear power, I have tried to make the point that there are knowledgeable and highly intelligent people on both the pro and the con sides of the issue, and that it is not the case, as some of the pro-nukes have it, that informed opinion is all on one side while the lay public that fears nuclear power is uninformed and hysterical. I have also pointed out that people who make their livings directly or indirectly from nuclear power may be biased in its favor (which is apparently inconceivable to Michael Stein). Instead of citing the views of scientists who command wide respect, (Bethe, Weinberg, Weisskopf, Flowers, etc.), some of the pro-nukes foolishly base their case on the writings of the strident propagandists Petr Beckmann and Bernard Cohen. I quoted a biologist who is highly regarded by his scientific colleagues, Paul Ehrlich, in a review of some of their work, to give some idea why Beckmann and Cohen may be regarded as propagandists in the invidious sense. The response was ill-judged attacks on Ehrlich. It is when the lay public reads such claims as "plutonium is only ten times as toxic as caffeine, and less so than botulin toxin", "after 300 years of waste storage the nuclear industry will be cleaning up the earth", "there is absolutely no connection between nuclear power and nuclear weapons", "hundreds of people are condemned to premature death every time a coal plant is built instead of a nuclear plant", "most opponents of nuclear power are Luddites who oppose technology and progress", "Ralph Nader says nuclear reactors can blow up in a nuclear explosion" (Nader merely echoes the views of nuclear experts such as Brian Flowers who assert that fast breeders can undergo a nuclear explosion, although such an event ["Hypothetical Core Disruptive Accident"] is highly unlikely), "Amory Lovins misrepresents his educational background" (he doesn't), "there is no danger worth worrying about from reactor sabotage or theft of plutonium", "[any of the AEC's notorious lies]", "the NRC is doing its job and has everything under control", "nuclear power is the `safest' energy technology", "Chicago must increase its electricity bills by 30% (with severe consequences for the city's economy) to pay for several new reactors, even though none of the existing nukes was used when the record for power output was set in July", or any of the propaganda generated by the US Committee for Energy Awareness -- when the public hears this sort of claim, which has been characteristic of the nuclear industry from the *beginning*, and discovers later that some of the claims are exaggerated or false, it is small wonder that the industry loses all credibility in the eyes of the public. In the last few weeks you have seen, in the microcosm of the net, a demonstration of of why the public distrusts nuclear power to such a degree. Richard Carnes