Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site whuts.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!whuxcc!lcuxlm!whuxl!whuts!orb From: orb@whuts.UUCP (SEVENER) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.sci Subject: Re: Nuclear power and Conservation: News for thought Message-ID: <953@whuts.UUCP> Date: Fri, 29-Aug-86 12:04:14 EDT Article-I.D.: whuts.953 Posted: Fri Aug 29 12:04:14 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 31-Aug-86 01:43:31 EDT References: <715@curly.ucla-cs.ARPA> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 36 Xref: watmath net.politics:18793 net.sci:1564 While Michael Stein continues his barrage of accusations that Drs. Goffman and Tamplin, who *had* been members of the AEC but left when their research demonstrating there was no threshold effect to health effects of radioactivty was squelched by the AEC, are simply in it for the money, recent news is of relevance to the whole debate. The Lovins and many other advocates of the "soft" energy path have long contended that the whole presumption that we should simply increase our energy output indefinitely is not the best solution. Whether the increase in energy production be from coal, gas, nukes or whatever the whole need for exponentially increasing energy production can be avoided by energy *conservation*. We waste enormous amounts of energy through inefficient building heating and cooling systems, inefficient transportation systems and inefficient appliances. In this regard Mr. Stein, Mr Carnes and everyone on the net should cheer the recent agreement reached between the Natural Resources Defense Council and the Appliance Industry in which the Appliance Industry finally gave up fighting conservation and agreed to support standards mandating that all appliances produced be energy efficient. The groups estimated that the production of energy efficient appliances would save the equivalent of 22 power plants. The report was on NPR a couple days ago. It is ironic that some of the biggest customers for the Lovins energy consulting work is now electrical utilities. They have begun to realize that they can save more money by promoting energy conservation measures than by building evermore expensive power plants of whatever type. We can do a lot more in terms of energy conservation which removes the need for *either* nukes or coal plants. tim sevener whuxn!orb