Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!topaz!ll-xn!mit-amt!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!decwrl!amdcad!amdimage!prls!philabs!polaris!herbie From: herbie@polaris.UUCP Newsgroups: net.news.b,net.sources.bugs Subject: Re: rn 4.3 patch #29 Message-ID: <679@polaris.UUCP> Date: Sat, 9-Aug-86 16:00:23 EDT Article-I.D.: polaris.679 Posted: Sat Aug 9 16:00:23 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 12-Aug-86 15:18:34 EDT References: <2901@sdcrdcf.UUCP> <316@comp.lancs.ac.uk> <2933@sdcrdcf.UUCP> Reply-To: herbie@polaris.UUCP (Herb Chong) Organization: IBM TJ Watson RC Lines: 31 Xref: mnetor net.news.b:364 net.sources.bugs:758 In article <2933@sdcrdcf.UUCP> lwall@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Larry Wall) writes: >From doing a bit of analysis on the articles at my site, I'd venture to >guess that the problem is either at ukma, or in the link between ukma and >psuvm.bitnet. All the sites above successfully relayed an article containing >tabs to my system except ukma, which I don't have enough data to pin it on, >but I found several articles that might have had tabs that didn't. Note >that both psuvm.bitnet and ukma are on bitnet, meaning there is likely an >ascii to ebcdic translation in there somewhere. I suspect this translation >is translating the tabs to spaces since tab is problematical in ebcdic. psuvax1 uses UREP to emulate the RSCS protocols necessary to talk to the rest of BITNET and i assume ukma does too. one of the things done by UREP that sometimes gets in the way is that all mail messages have their tabs expanded to blanks. i presume that psuvax1 forwards news to ukma using the BITNET mail protocol and therefore undergoes the tab expansion since a standard news article is supposed to be compatible with the RFC 822 mail standard. there are ways around this but it assumes that both parties at psuvax1 and ukma get together and decide to modify how they send news to each other slightly. Herb Chong, IBM Research... I'm still user-friendly -- I don't byte, I nybble.... VNET,BITNET,NETNORTH,EARN: HERBIE AT YKTVMH UUCP: {allegra|cbosgd|cmcl2|decvax|ihnp4|seismo}!philabs!polaris!herbie CSNET: herbie%ibm.com@csnet-relay ARPA: herbie@ibm.com, herbie%yktvmh.bitnet@wiscvm.wisc.edu ======================================================================== DISCLAIMER: what you just read was produced by pouring lukewarm tea for 42 seconds onto 9 people chained to 6 Ouiji boards.