Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!lll-lcc!pyramid!hplabs!sdcrdcf!faigin From: faigin@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Daniel P Faigin) Newsgroups: net.text,net.unix Subject: Re: Use of ``vi'' for business office word-processing Message-ID: <3000@sdcrdcf.UUCP> Date: Wed, 10-Sep-86 20:02:13 EDT Article-I.D.: sdcrdcf.3000 Posted: Wed Sep 10 20:02:13 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 11-Sep-86 21:42:09 EDT References: <1246@kitty.UUCP> <966@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> Reply-To: faigin@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Daniel P Faigin) Organization: System Development Corporation R&D, Santa Monica Lines: 63 Keywords: ``vi'' word-processing non-programmers Xref: mnetor net.text:961 net.unix:5450 In article <1246@kitty.UUCP> larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) writes: > So my question is: Am I WRONG in advising people to stay with ``vi'' >and not spend money for "word-processing software" in the BUSINESS APPLICATION >environment? [Note: My wife asked me to post this. I personally perfer vi and think it is usable for novices... with the right support] A few notes -- you asked for it! I _have taught_ word processing to secretaries several times in the past, and am currently being scheduled for a MASS-11 "Train the Trainer" class so that I can teach our system to several of our company's (semi-local) groups. I agree with Paul Higginbottom 1. vi, Wordstar, EMACS, TECO and the rest of those "programmer friendly (HAH!)" languages will drive a secretary to _tears_ (or to quit -- which is bad news if she's a good secretary). Forget 'em in the _business_ world. Anyone who advises teaching vi, nroff, et al to secretaries should be forced to do the training themselves. 2. "Word Processing Software" comes in two forms: a. IBMs and clones (e.g., IBM 5570, CPT) b. That which I can teach running rudiments of to a programmer in 5 minutes, and a secretary in less than an hour. --> Corollary: Stay away from IBMs "word processors" 3. A _good_ word processing package on a stable system is worth its weight in expensive rare-earth metals. 4. WSIWYG is a _must_. Labelled keycaps (_not_ loss-prone templates) can help immensely. 5. Remember that word processing applications expand to fill all available features. Recommendations: 1. Standalones: NBI (can also be networked to other NBIs, and through software, to "name your computer") 2. Standard & Multiuser: : IBM-PC or clone with SAMNAword, NBI, or MASS-11 software on hard disk (w/LAN) : MicroVax w/ All In One and MASS-11 software, VT200/VT220 terminal (up to ~15 users) : Larger Vaxen as need arises. Karen Davis -- UUCP: {akgua allegra ihnp4 hplabs sdcsvax trwrb cbosgd}!sdcrdcf!faigin ARPA: sdcrdcf!faigin@UCLA-LOCUS.ARPA --or-- sdcrdcf!faigin@LOCUS.UCLA.EDU W (Daniel): System Development Corporation (-: A Sparroughs Company :-) 2525 Colorado MD 91-01; Santa Monica CA 90406; (213) 820-4111 x6393 W (Karen) : Amex Systems Incorporated (An Allied Bendix Aerospace Company) 107 West Carob Street; Compton CA 90220; (213) 604-4500 x4838 H: 8333 Columbus Avenue #17; Sepulveda CA 91343; (818) 892-8555