Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!uwvax!husc6!panda!genrad!decvax!decwrl!sun!guy From: guy@sun.UUCP Newsgroups: net.text,net.unix Subject: Re: Use of ``vi'' for business office word-processing Message-ID: <6995@sun.uucp> Date: Mon, 8-Sep-86 06:11:45 EDT Article-I.D.: sun.6995 Posted: Mon Sep 8 06:11:45 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 8-Sep-86 21:15:13 EDT References: <1246@kitty.UUCP> <709@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 33 Xref: mnetor net.text:943 net.unix:5411 > Yes, I think you're wrong. Secretaries don't have time, nor do they usually > want to learn something like Unix. They will prefer EVERY TIME something > which works as similarly as possible to their typewriter. I agree with this. Heck, *I* like UNIX (I think), but *I* get rather annoyed at the text processing tools sometimes; for almost all the stuff I do, some sort of good WYSIWYG editor would probably let me do all I need and *much* more conveniently. A *really* good one, i.e. one whose formatting primitives aren't all at the "indent 5 spaces, left margin at 10, right margin at 70" type, but which permits you to say "make this a standard paragraph" and then edit a style sheet telling it what a "standard paragraph" looks like, and which will permit you to change that style sheet later and have the document's appearance change as soon as the style sheet is changed, would be even better. I think Microsoft Word, for example, does this; versions definitely exist for UNIX, since I think they were offering it for the AT&T UNIX PC. > The combination of vi, nroff, troff, etc., and the Unix utilities do > provide, for those that are computer literate or will take quite a lot > of time to learn, a great deal of flexibility. I think I fall into the category given, but frankly I think I can get most of the flexibility I need without having to pour so much energy into figuring out how to get the programs to do what I want. "tbl" is especially annoying here; anybody who can get it to produce the table they want on the first try, every time, deserves a Grand Master of "tbl" award. A WYSIWYG system at least gives you feedback more quickly; you don't have to wait for "[nt]roff" to grind through N pages before it gets to the page you're trying to get right. -- Guy Harris {ihnp4, decvax, seismo, decwrl, ...}!sun!guy guy@sun.com (or guy@sun.arpa)